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      02-16-2016, 12:51 PM   #1
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Joint Supplements?

Hey everyone!

It doesn't seem like many folks post in this sub-forum, but I am curious to know what you all have been using for your joint pain during lifting?

I have been using Animal Flex for approximately 3-4 weeks and it has completely changed my endurance and recovery. Mainly had problems in my wrists from 35-45lb dumbbell trainings since I lift every day (I'm 5'6", 157 lbs) and mostly do different Hammer & Chisel/P90+ routines daily.

It is a combination of glucosamine, flaxseed oil, and other lubrication complexes. Great stuff!
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FRONTLINE in association with the NEWYORKTIMES
had a PBS show a few weeks back on supplements.
Worth reading transcript or google excerpts frm the piece.

On another topic, I read some interesting posts online from either muscle/fitness or bodybuilding site about the damage of curls if you not using hammer curl technique. I'll try to find and post. I was getting pain from bar bell curls - which I knew were problematic.
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I have arthritis and been taking Move Free for years. And no, I'm not AARP age by at least 2 decades.
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I use and swear by Legion Fortify. The magic is in the UC II Undenatured Type II Collagen that is in it. Scientifically shown to be more effective than glucosamine. There are other joint support products that have it as well.

My left shoulder had real issues from being sloppy on strict form for a bit. Rotator cuff issues. It was miserable until I found UC II Collagen... within a few weeks my shoulder was completely better and it has never gotten bad again (although I've cleaned up some form issues too).
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FRONTLINE in association with the NEWYORKTIMES
had a PBS show a few weeks back on supplements.
Worth reading transcript or google excerpts frm the piece.

On another topic, I read some interesting posts online from either muscle/fitness or bodybuilding site about the damage of curls if you not using hammer curl technique. I'll try to find and post. I was getting pain from bar bell curls - which I knew were problematic.
That is interesting. Is it the manner of the weight release that is damaging to joints/wrists?

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I have arthritis and been taking Move Free for years. And no, I'm not AARP age by at least 2 decades.
I'll take a look into that, also!

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I use and swear by Legion Fortify. The magic is in the UC II Undenatured Type II Collagen that is in it. Scientifically shown to be more effective than glucosamine. There are other joint support products that have it as well.

My left shoulder had real issues from being sloppy on strict form for a bit. Rotator cuff issues. It was miserable until I found UC II Collagen... within a few weeks my shoulder was completely better and it has never gotten bad again (although I've cleaned up some form issues too).
Really? Now that is indeed something. The rotator cuff can be quite a bitch when it becomes problematic. The form is also integral. I am actually going to look into that right now.

When you took the UC II, were you incorporating any rest periods intermittently, or you just continued your normal routines?
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I'm 5'6 between 195 and 205lbs. I lifted heavy in my young days and my joints took a bit of a beating. At this point I concentrate on form, time under tension, and mix it in with some drop sets.. Pretty much what ever joint discomfort I had is gone now BUT one supplement that did help was Baxyl Hyaluronan. I would HIGHLY suggest that you work out every other day if you are having joint pain and either avoid exercises that are causing you pain. Obviously also make sure that your form is good and that you have FULL control of the weight through the entire range of motion. If you are getting wrist pain then I would suggest you start working your forearms and avoid any sort of workout gloves that wrap around the wrist. Also never bend the wrist up when doing any sort of curls, wrist should either be straight or broken(bent down), bending your wrist up will eventually net you some nasty tendonitis in your forearms.
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Really? Now that is indeed something. The rotator cuff can be quite a bitch when it becomes problematic. The form is also integral. I am actually going to look into that right now.

When you took the UC II, were you incorporating any rest periods intermittently, or you just continued your normal routines?
Monday is shoulder day for me and the ONLY thing I did was skip one Monday to give my shoulders a one workout break. I added some rotator cuff specific strengthening exercises and just continued my regular routine. My shoulders have been pain free for months. And that is with me moving to a much heavier, lower rep focus with lots of heavy shoulder and chest pressing.

I mean it when I say I swear by UCII. Here is a link and a good write-up on the ingredients with references to the various scientific studies... https://legionathletics.com/products...ments/fortify/
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I'm 5'6 between 195 and 205lbs. I lifted heavy in my young days and my joints took a bit of a beating. At this point I concentrate on form, time under tension, and mix it in with some drop sets.. Pretty much what ever joint discomfort I had is gone now BUT one supplement that did help was Baxyl Hyaluronan. I would HIGHLY suggest that you work out every other day if you are having joint pain and either avoid exercises that are causing you pain. Obviously also make sure that your form is good and that you have FULL control of the weight through the entire range of motion. If you are getting wrist pain then I would suggest you start working your forearms and avoid any sort of workout gloves that wrap around the wrist. Also never bend the wrist up when doing any sort of curls, wrist should either be straight or broken(bent down), bending your wrist up will eventually net you some nasty tendonitis in your forearms.
Thank you for the words man! I'm actually switching up my routines after a 2 week's rest period starting next Monday, then I will go back to intermittent cardio and sporadic weight lifting. That should do the trick, combined with my continued supplement intake, to repair my joints well enough to return to normal. But yeah, I never lift that way. It feels awkward, also.

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Monday is shoulder day for me and the ONLY thing I did was skip one Monday to give my shoulders a one workout break. I added some rotator cuff specific strengthening exercises and just continued my regular routine. My shoulders have been pain free for months. And that is with me moving to a much heavier, lower rep focus with lots of heavy shoulder and chest pressing.

I mean it when I say I swear by UCII. Here is a link and a good write-up on the ingredients with references to the various scientific studies... https://legionathletics.com/products...ments/fortify/
That means a lot, thanks for your insight! It also doesn't look too pricey at all, I will look into at the Vitamin Shoppe when I go back for some more BPI BCAA powder; that also works pretty well in conjunction with my other stuff, but the Animal Flex did the most good for me. I'm sure the UCII will seal the deal.

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gthal, two capsules daily correct? Any need to take them with food?
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I never said you were. But you've replaced my old favorite people. Even if you were old before, you are new. Na mean?
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I use and swear by Legion Fortify. The magic is in the UC II Undenatured Type II Collagen that is in it. Scientifically shown to be more effective than glucosamine. There are other joint support products that have it as well.

My left shoulder had real issues from being sloppy on strict form for a bit. Rotator cuff issues. It was miserable until I found UC II Collagen... within a few weeks my shoulder was completely better and it has never gotten bad again (although I've cleaned up some form issues too).
May have to look into this also.
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gthal, two capsules daily correct? Any need to take them with food?
Yes, two daily. I take it after I eat in the morning... not sure if I need to, that's just when I do it
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I never said you were. But you've replaced my old favorite people. Even if you were old before, you are new. Na mean?
Maybe it's the vacation air?
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Yes, two daily. I take it after I eat in the morning... not sure if I need to, that's just when I do it
Oh okay. I take a sport multivitamin pack with lunch and the Animal tablets with dinner. I guess I could add two more capsules in there somewhere.

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Or I should drink all day every day?
Wrong thread? Or nah.
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Booze is super high here. Fifth of anything but rum is 150ish belize so 75 buck even cheap shit like fireball.
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Booze is super high here. Fifth of anything but rum is 150ish belize so 75 buck even cheap shit like fireball.
Whaaaat the fuck.
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They prevent.other companies for selling here. They heavily favor Belizean companies and tax the shit out of anything else. It's cheaper for me to buy a fifth of rum than a monster.
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