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      06-03-2012, 07:54 PM   #45
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No X7M? That's too bad. If they ever do make an X7 that would be an interesting and cool model to consider. A SAV with 3 rows and //M power!
Sure. Why not construction trucks and excavation machines next? With M power even a grass cutter would be an amazing ride!
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Just put a deposit on M450... dont think they will put V8 in 4 series coupe
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Very nice. Would really like to see a M7!
+1 for the longest time the 7 series has wanted the M treatment
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My biggest qualm is adding an "M" badge to non-M's, even if they're called M3xx or M5xx. To get an M, you needed to buy an M, not an M-inspired model. That's what the M-performance packages were for. But business is business I guess...
So, does this mean that M3 M5 M6 owners look at the 'M Sport package' for non M cars in disdain?

I'm going to order an F31 wagon with the M Sport package. It does not have an M badge on the back of the car but there are M's on the wheels, the steering wheel and on the door sills. I know the car is not an 'M', but it's the closest thing I can get to an M3 wagon.

I agree that this list of trademarked names includes too many M variants, but I'm conflicted because I always prefer "M-ness" to any other incarnation, even if it's not a "true" M car.
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so it went from ///M the most powerful letter in the world, to ///M the most marketed letter in the world
This change happened awhile back, it's just fortunate they still build magnificent cars.
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I have a simple suggestion that would greatly simplify the BMW naming structure
Just put M before any and all models
Why confuse is with the m3/m4/m50/m3mm/ mm3m etc?

Here is a set secret spy pic of the BMW lineup in 5 years
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I have a simple suggestion that would greatly simplify the BMW naming structure
Just put M before any and all models
Why confuse is with the m3/m4/m50/m3mm/ mm3m etc?

Here is a set secret spy pic of the BMW lineup in 5 years

Haha, seems about right.
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So, does this mean that M3 M5 M6 owners look at the 'M Sport package' for non M cars in disdain?

I'm going to order an F31 wagon with the M Sport package. It does not have an M badge on the back of the car but there are M's on the wheels, the steering wheel and on the door sills. I know the car is not an 'M', but it's the closest thing I can get to an M3 wagon.

I agree that this list of trademarked names includes too many M variants, but I'm conflicted because I always prefer "M-ness" to any other incarnation, even if it's not a "true" M car.
No, they shouldn't look at it in disdain, since it is common for car companies to include a "performance" line for their standard (non-performance) models. But making a 550 and M550 is walking a fine line. As a businessman, I can see the sense in making these "non-M but still has the M badge" models, since they cater towards people like you (hence why I bolded your last sentence). I'd personally LOVE to pick up an M550d X-drive as a second car. But again, for someone who does drive an M3, I feel like it dilutes the status/name of my car just a tad (not too much, though).

Call it whatever you like, but put yourself in my shoes...wouldn't you be at least a little bothered by the dilution factor of the car you drive? The net love/hate could still be positive (in my case it is, since I would own some of these new M models, even the SUV M's), but I'm mainly talking about the affect it has on those with M cars.
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No X7M? That's too bad. If they ever do make an X7 that would be an interesting and cool model to consider. A SAV with 3 rows and //M power!
Sure. Why not construction trucks and excavation machines next? With M power even a grass cutter would be an amazing ride!
Well if they are considering an M7 then it would only make sense, especially if they do end up making an X7 SAV. And your response makes no sense at all considering the topic. But thanks for sharing your opinion...
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I would like to see an M7, M8 and the M10. The possibilities are endless.

On the other hand, doesn't that water down the seriousness of an M car by making sooooooo many models?

Just a thought.
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Isn't M35 used by Infiniti?
I would think that it depends on how it is used. For instance it could be a new motorcycle which I doubt is something that Infiniti would get pissed about.
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ooo some new RR names in there too, nice
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I have a simple suggestion that would greatly simplify the BMW naming structure
Just put M before any and all models
Why confuse is with the m3/m4/m50/m3mm/ mm3m etc?

Here is a set secret spy pic of the BMW lineup in 5 years
hahahahhahahahahah
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Just put a deposit on M450... dont think they will put V8 in 4 series coupe
Youre' right, they won't put a V8 in the 4 series. But consider a potential M-ified 6 cylinder gasoline engine along the lines of the M-tuned N57S diesel used in the new "M 50d" models. The 50i name might befit products with such an engine, if it exists at some future date.
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I have a simple suggestion that would greatly simplify the BMW naming structure
Just put M before any and all models
Why confuse is with the m3/m4/m50/m3mm/ mm3m etc?

Here is a set secret spy pic of the BMW lineup in 5 years


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Z8........maybe a new incarnation of the classic, early roadster inspired car from a decade ago? Except, you know, actually performs?
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I am also surprised that BMW didnt own the M1 trademark. Weird...
It's possible that these models could be revived, but my guess is that these trademarks need to be renewed every so often. Even if these models aren't revived, you don't necessarily want a competitor to pick up the rights to a trademark by letting it expire.
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Youre' right, they won't put a V8 in the 4 series. But consider a potential M-ified 6 cylinder gasoline engine along the lines of the M-tuned N57S diesel used in the new "M 50d" models. The 50i name might befit products with such an engine, if it exists at some future date.
I do not forsee the V8 being placed in a 4er or 3er for that matter also.
However BMW are looking at M Performance Automobiles for the lower end of the market mimicing the M550d and X5 and X6M50d with the 3er , X3 and upcoming X4 with a performance diesel concept based upon the diesel four cylinder.

Some of the titles are purely for future protection.
If you take eDrive for example this was the name Mercedes-Benz intended to use for the electric SLS AMG but BMW had already owned the trademark hence why it is now E-Cell.

•X2, X4
The name of the upcoming BMW X models. X4 is a four door Sport Activity Coupe in the sense of the larger X6.
X2 is not a smaller X4 in fact it is not a Coupe , mainly a lower roofed SAV and will be the first BMW SAV to make production as a 3dr and 5dr.
X2 will be RWD/AWD whilst the next generation X1 moves to the UKL FWD/AWD platform.

•M1, M2, M7, M10
Protective: Some brands have tried to use M trademarks.
M2 is the guise given to the future M variant of the 2er Coupe.
M7 might become a possibility.

•2 Series
The 2er will be BMW's designation for its entry Coupe that will replace the 1er coupe. The name not only conjours up nostaligia with the classic 2002. But leads the split of the BMW models into individual series.

•2 Series Active Tourer
Currently under deliberation in Munich, The 2er Active Tourer mixes a Sporthatch with a Touring. Think of the classic 1600/2002 Touring meeting a Hyundai Veloster - single rear door and all. But purely RWD and for a BMW another new niche to investigate.

•Compactive, Compactive Tourer, Gran Tourer, Urbanic
Some trademarks given to the smaller upcoming revolutionary FWD BMW family - City Compactive is the 3dr and 5dr Hatch, which will bring BMW style and driveability to the small car segment thanks to a combination of eye catching design, overall appeal and Front wheel driven dynamics. Compactive Tourer is the FWD BMW MPV that is currently in testing. Urbanic is a line within the FWD family.

Gran Tourer is BMW's term for potential Shooting Brake concepts which could spawn the BMW 6er , 4er and 2er Shooting Brakes.

•E1, E2, E3, E4, E5, E6, E7, E8, E9
Every BMW trademark is designated from 1-9. These could be potential electric variants of the current line to be sold along the regular line as a more accessable approach to electric mobility for those that cannot reach for the BMWi brand.

•i1, i2, i3, i4, i5, i6, i7, i8, i9The BMWi cars.

•Z8
Protective: Other manufacturers have tried to use Z8.

•GC, Gran Coupe, BMW Gran Coupe, 6er Gran CoupeDesignated to BMW's four door Coupe models namely the 6er and upcoming 4er.

•SportMode, CoolMode, Air Collar, BMW Turbotec, Drive eCharged, LifeDrive, i Pedelec
The first four describe forthcoming technology to be implemented into series cars.
BMWi is not just about the cars but also the solution to achieve sustainable mobility. BMWi is not just about getting to A-B in a car but other methods of transportion including cycling and walking.

•Corniche, Shadow, Wraith, Cloud, Dawn
Corniche is the name given to the Drophead Coupe variant of the Ghost.
A current Ghost has a waiting list of about twelve months , expect the Corniche to initially be higher
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