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      07-09-2012, 01:24 PM   #133
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They're on their way. Expect a GB thread to pop up soon!

A few of the review sets just arrived. They'll be shipping out today after payment is made!
Fantastic news, I'll be watching.
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      07-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #134
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+1, I'd rather go for the slightly higher priced + proven product over a lower priced product that has yet to provide some data.

The irony in all this is that the initial GB will be for the 7" FMIC. B/c it's a 7" core, this def means that there will be cutting for it to mount properly. Also, no one has any idea how resistant the VRSF IC is to heatsoak, how effective it is at bringing down IATs & what kinda impact it will have on pressure drops. There's also no need for a 7" core unless you're building a dedicated track car.

IF I was penny pinching & had to choose again, the AA Sport FMIC is probably your best, established option. $675 for a quality core, IC piping & Cold Piping up to the CP.

EDIT: Lutz is running a GB on the AA Sport FMIC, $600
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654982
thanks for the info, im bout to buy the AA i think, or i might just go balls out and get the HELIX
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They're on their way. Expect a GB thread to pop up soon!

A few of the review sets just arrived. They'll be shipping out today after payment is made!
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5" kits are still under development and won't be available for at least another 2-3 months. The 7" kits will be in stock in about 4 weeks.
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5" kits are still under development and won't be available for at least another 2-3 months. The 7" kits will be in stock in about 4 weeks.
Where is that GB pricing thread !!!

And where is my pm on shipping lol?
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Very interested in pricing.

7" would probably be overkill for my needs, but what's the harm in cooler air?
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      07-11-2012, 10:50 AM   #139
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Very interested in pricing.

7" would probably be overkill for my needs, but what's the harm in cooler air?
Bigger isn't always better, heat sink effect isn't as beneficial when the car is actually moving, and sometimes a larger core can impact boost threshold.
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Bigger isn't always better, heat sink effect isn't as beneficial when the car is actually moving, and sometimes a larger core can impact boost threshold.
This gonna makes Big Tom mad...
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Very interested in pricing.

7" would probably be overkill for my needs, but what's the harm in cooler air?
Bigger isn't always better, heat sink effect isn't as beneficial when the car is actually moving, and sometimes a larger core can impact boost threshold.
Ya but for those of us planning on eventually going larger twins or even a large single it would be beneficial to upgrade to a larger core now as opposed to buying 5" an having to sell and re-buy.

At least, these are my thoughts from what I've read on these forums. Someone please correct me if Im wrong.
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Ya but for those of us planning on eventually going larger twins or even a large single it would be beneficial to upgrade to a larger core now as opposed to buying 5" an having to sell and re-buy.

At least, these are my thoughts from what I've read on these forums. Someone please correct me if Im wrong.
iirc the Helix FMIC is a 5'' core? vishnu single turbo shop car running their single project fine with just the helix.
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      07-11-2012, 04:22 PM   #143
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iirc the Helix FMIC is a 5'' core? vishnu single turbo shop car running their single project fine with just the helix.
But also with four meth nozzles and a reportedly more efficient single turbo (less heat?). Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
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grab a used model on the fourms..... there are pleanty of them out there. Its hard to mess up a fmic, even in shipping, install, removal...
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iirc the Helix FMIC is a 5'' core? vishnu single turbo shop car running their single project fine with just the helix.
It's a 5" Stepped Intercooler, so it's got more "core" than a 5" but prob not as much as a 7". The only thing you need to watch out with used ICs is if the fins are excessively damaged & if oil has contaminated the core (clogs it up, lowers efficiency)
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iirc the Helix FMIC is a 5'' core? vishnu single turbo shop car running their single project fine with just the helix.
It's a 5" Stepped Intercooler, so it's got more "core" than a 5" but prob not as much as a 7". The only thing you need to watch out with used ICs is if the fins are excessively damaged & if oil has contaminated the core (clogs it up, lowers efficiency)
Since when does being stepped add core to the IC? :s

From what I understand it being stepped or not is a design for cooling efficiency and has nothing to do with volume of core....

At least that's what I gather from all these convos....seems to be common sense anyways
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The Helix (stepped design) has a larger face (the "top step" that no other FMIIC has) & improves cooling efficency without causing significant pressure drops. Larger face from stepped design + 5" core = "biggest" (most cubic inches) 5" FMIC you can buy. If you look at all the high HP cars & reputable tuners (Shiv + Vishnu, Terry + BMS, and even some of the COBB test cars IIRC) all use Helix cores & it's not by accident

Terry is now running a CX racing intercooler on his 135i It just so happens to be the largest, but you better be prepared to do some custom fabrication to get it to fit.
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Do you mind keeping this on topic? This isn't a VRSF vs thread
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Terry is now running a CX racing intercooler on his 135i It just so happens to be the largest, but you better be prepared to do some custom fabrication to get it to fit.
Fair, but like you mentioned the CX Racing/Big Tom IC requires some more "permanent" modifications to be made then your standard 5" IC
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