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      06-17-2012, 03:01 PM   #1
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first fr-s crash in the US

Awsome driver skill.... http://m.leftlanenews.com/scion-fr-s...raph-pole.html
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      06-17-2012, 04:12 PM   #2
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prepare to see a lot more of these kinds of reports.

look at the target audience for that car.
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      06-17-2012, 04:22 PM   #3
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Why would they not give their sports car traction control?
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      06-17-2012, 04:28 PM   #4
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The first of many
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      06-17-2012, 04:38 PM   #5
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I'm sure you can shut off the traction control just like we can....
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      06-17-2012, 08:19 PM   #6
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what the hell is an fr-s
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      06-17-2012, 08:26 PM   #7
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Here's a quote straight out of the Car & Driver Review of the FR-S

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Akio Toyoda (President of Toyota) says the FR-S, “[It] responds to good driving skills.” If you don’t have them, you might want to get some training—or leave the stability control on. Young drivers whom Scion courts should know the FR-S is nothing like the front-drive, nearly error-proof tC. If you don’t know what you’re doing behind the wheel, the FR-S will make you look dumb.
This thing is gonna be an insurance nightmare.
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      06-18-2012, 07:48 AM   #8
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Given the target audience and the by and large lack of familiarity with RWD, I'd say the insurance is going to skyrocket, if it isn't already up there.
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LOL @ crashing a 15sec car

Ahhhh omg it's soo much powerrrrrrrr
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      06-18-2012, 11:49 AM   #10
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because...racecar?
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      06-18-2012, 11:57 AM   #11
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LOL @ crashing a 15sec car

Ahhhh omg it's soo much powerrrrrrrr
People will crash any type of car they can drive
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      06-18-2012, 11:57 AM   #12
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prepare to see a lot more of these kinds of reports.

look at the target audience for that car.
can not be any worse than 335i rwd insurance rates. because look at the target audience.

ps, i want one.
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      06-18-2012, 12:01 PM   #13
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You guys make fun of it. But that car has LSD. Guess which car doesn't come with LSD?

It's a drivers car. The kid prob doesn't know how to drive period. I would love to get one. They seem fun as hell to drive.
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The car was built to go around a curve sideways: LSD, quality 6 speed gear ratio, near 50:50 weight distribution, etc. The problem is that majority of the customers think b/c they can go sideways on their PS3, that they can do it in real life w/o any problems.

Unfortunately, there's no "Reset" button when you hit a light pole, tree or guard rail.
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The car was built to go around a curve sideways: LSD, quality 6 speed gear ratio, near 50:50 weight distribution, etc. The problem is that majority of the customers think b/c they can go sideways on their PS3, that they can do it in real life w/o any problems.

Unfortunately, there's no "Reset" button when you hit a light pole, tree or guard rail.

how is a car with 200hp and 2800lbs built to go around a curve sideways?
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how is a car with 200hp and 2800lbs built to go around a curve sideways?
Well besides all the stuff I listed that will drastically change the driving feel of the car, I just read in the article that it comes w/ Prius tires that'll be easily overpower. And even though it's only got 200 HP, it's a lot like a Mazda Miata where you get a lot more driving fun out of it then straight line speed.

For it to be a serious drift car, it's going to need a turbo or much bigger engine. Be interesting to see if Subaru gives it's the STI treatment.

Edit: Just found out even if it gets the STI "upgrade", it won't come from the factory with a turbo. Time for aftermarket mods
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      06-18-2012, 01:08 PM   #17
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Well besides all the stuff I listed that will drastically change the driving feel of the car, I just read in the article that it comes w/ Prius tires that'll be easily overpower. And even though it's only got 200 HP, it's a lot like a Mazda Miata where you get a lot more driving fun out of it then straight line speed.

For it to be a serious drift car, it's going to need a turbo or much bigger engine. Be interesting to see if Subaru gives it's the STI treatment.

Edit: Just found out even if it gets the STI "upgrade", it won't come from the factory with a turbo. Time for aftermarket mods
dude, what? it comes with summer tires, and im sorry, ive driven the car, its not "tail happy".

the point u are missing is actually the entire point of the car, is that its limits are relatively low, because they are easily accessible.

dont get me wrong, lsd is fun and shit, but u really need to know not what you are doing to fuck that car up. but on the same tip, we drive 335s, which isnt exactly the pedestal from which to shit on other car platforms or their owners.

ps id love to see where those primacy tires are also on a pruis, or what prius has 17 inch summer tires.
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Go to the paragraph that starts "Compared with modern sports cars,"

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
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Go to the paragraph that starts "Compared with modern sports cars,"

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
personally I'm impressed that they got 0.91g on a skid pad.

and that a prius has a sports package. good for it.

still want a frs, its owners are no worse more better than we.
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Looks & sounds like a great car -- Just feel like it's going to leave people hungry for more power & then people will start looking at the Hyundai Genesis Coupe w/ the turbo engine (~275 HP stock). Funny thing is, the JDM scene is gonna jump on this & some1s will do a 2JZ swap -- Just a matter of time.

Side note -- Hyundai 2.0T is good for 275 HP stock & the 3.8L V6 only gives 350 HP. Crank up the boost & you've saved ~9k for the same performance.
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You guys make fun of it. But that car has LSD. Guess which car doesn't come with LSD?

It's a drivers car. The kid prob doesn't know how to drive period. I would love to get one. They seem fun as hell to drive.
street driving and performance driving are apples and oranges. pretty much anyone who doesn't have a decent amount of track experience and/or formal training "doesn't know how to drive".

i'd just chalk it up to the guy being a typical college aged jerko with his first "sports car". i'm sure someone who doesn't know how to drive, yet is more mature behind the wheel wouldn't have a problem taming this 200hp speed dragon.
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