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      06-14-2012, 01:02 PM   #1
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Perfect Procede Log - FBO 16psi = Can i get more power?

Did a log recently, everything looks to be running great at 16psi, 100%IC, & 91 oct.
No meth, or race gas.

Can i tweak my setting for a little more power or let it run steady at this?
Seems ~16psi is the norm for FBO.

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      06-14-2012, 01:04 PM   #2
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That isnt a perfect log. Observe timing after the shift.
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That isnt a perfect log. Observe timing after the shift.
That was just a quick blip of the throttle just to shift, i am assuming if i kept going mach 10 my timing curve would smooth out and trend up slightly as expected.

The main log(3rd gear) trend looks good with the exception of a slight hiccup in the AFR at the onset of boost. From my understanding this is normal and has happened across almost all my logs.
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Your AFR looks as good as it can. I'd go 3-4 shift and hold out 4th gear for say 1000 rpms to see how timing reacts after the shift.
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you could always drop IC some and re-log. Here is a 93 octane log with IC set at 20 from the other day for me. Was running lower boost to test something but you might as well give it a whirl

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Ok will do.

jpsimon not sure why you are losing so much boost in your shifts. I was not shifting fast at all and i still didnt lose as much as you.

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Why don't any of these logs have the ability to have RPM on the x-axis instead of its own graph? That would be more valuable to me.
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I was being very lazy with the shifting, that isn't normal for me. I was just posting it so you could see you can probably run a bit more aggressive timing
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Why don't any of these logs have the ability to have RPM on the x-axis instead of its own graph? That would be more valuable to me.
It's the just the program used to view the data, its in CSV format so you could use excel or VD to graph it if desired.

I completely agree with you, I prefer to have everything on one graph. Not only that but the scaling is ridiculous lol I guess it does smooth things out and make it look better.
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Who cares? you can see the values at any point or adjust the scaling however you see fit. not a big deal

It doesn't matter how "smooth" or not it may "seem" as long as you know what you're looking for in your own log.
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You can zoom in/out on any point in the graph.

I hate looking at a JB4 log, it looks like scribble, i much prefer the Procede style of logs.
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Who cares? you can see the values at any point or adjust the scaling however you see fit. not a big deal

If you're doing a log for something specific you know what you're looking for, doesn't matter how "smooth" or not it may "seem".
Well I do care since I don't have a piggyback at this time, and curious to learn more about their logging capabilities, etc. However, if you are saying that you can adjust the scaling and pinpoint to a certain RPM (or a range) and see the actual variable's data point as plotted on the graph, then you are correct, it's not a big deal.
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You can zoom in/out on any point in the graph.

I hate looking at a JB4 log, it looks like scribble, i much prefer the Procede style of logs.
It's infinitely easier on the eyes to read procede logs separated out in my opinion. I'd much rather be looking at these than everything on one
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Well I do care since I don't have a piggyback at this time, and curious to learn more about their logging capabilities, etc. However, if you are saying that you can adjust the scaling and pinpoint to a certain RPM (or a range) and see the actual variable's data point as plotted on the graph, then you are correct, it's not a big deal.
gotcha. Yeah you can zoom in as far as you'd like - and anywhere you click you see that point's values on the left hand side there (for every row). And you can adjust the scaling for each channel
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Who cares? you can see the values at any point or adjust the scaling however you see fit. not a big deal

It doesn't matter how "smooth" or not it may "seem" as long as you know what you're looking for in your own log.
That's 100% true. A crappy log is crappy and a good log is good regardless of how its presented.
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OP, what maps are you running?
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Try small increments of IC dropping. Maybe log IC 80 and go from there. You may want to upgrade to a rev 2.5 its a fairly inexpensive upgrade and give you access to the aggressive maps it also has better fueling capacity.
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you could always drop IC some and re-log. Here is a 93 octane log with IC set at 20 from the other day for me. Was running lower boost to test something but you might as well give it a whirl
damn that is rich, and your fuel trim is far from maxed out. i guess lower boost enables you to be that rich?
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damn that is rich, and your fuel trim is far from maxed out. i guess lower boost enables you to be that rich?
jpsimon's log doesn't look that rich to me at all?
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