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      06-17-2012, 05:36 PM   #45
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      06-18-2012, 02:14 AM   #46
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Its a nice looking car and for the price but why RWD with only 200 hp? Might as well make it an AWD and get it over with.
Yeah, but it only weighs 2,750lbs. It has a better power to weight ratio than the 335i.

0-60 times aren't everything guys.
Hahaha better power to weight ratio than a 335? Did you think your comment was gonna slide by unnoticed
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      06-18-2012, 02:17 AM   #47
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Didn't love it when I saw it on the road.
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I'd love to flog one on the track but for a daily driver, not a frick'n chance. Crap interior, joke of a backseat, anemic power, crap stock tires, etc.

If the FR-S /BRZ was a woman, she'd be a decent whore I'd bang every now and then but would never consider marrying.
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My buddy bought a Zion and it was awesome. Really slow but awesome. It had no problems. It was the one that looked like a box. He kept it until someone decided it would be better to see if they could drive through it at a stop light.
The xB I think? Toyota reliability so it will drive and be easy and cheap to fix, but it will be cheap and slow. I only mean to say this will be more of the same. Light, fun to flog, cheap to fix, reliable, but cheap inside, cheap outside, and slow.
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0-60 7.3 sec.
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Can they drive? 200 hp in a 2700 pound car should be faster than that. Most car magazines have it 0-60 in about 6.7 seconds.
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I just saw this vehicle at local toyota dealer past weekend.

Not a bad car at all
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yes, but i think you missed the point of this car.
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yes, but i think you missed the point of this car.
If the point of the car is to be very slow, then no I got the point.
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Motor Trend has it at 6.2 sec., the exact same as BMW lists for the E92 328i. And it's not designed to be a muscle car or luxury car. It's a light, nimble, fun, reliable, cheap-ish car with a great chassis (by all accounts). I think some of you guys are forgetting it starts at $25,000 and then oddly comparing it to the $45,000 E92 335i.
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If the point of the car is to be very slow, then no I got the point.
lol not sure if srs or trolling, but okay.



From my understanding, the point of the car is "balance" and not speed.
Its really supposed to shine in the turns, not a drag strip.



I guess if all you're really concerned with the 0-60 then that would explain your view on this car.
All good tho. everyone has different priorities. It just seemed weird to me that someone with a BMW couldn't appreciate another car that is all about handling.
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That sucks, because force induction would be the only thing that would make it appealing to me.
Great handling cheap car. If you want the power (some of the time) for cheap...go nitrous.
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I think people missed the point of this car. It's a balanced(just like the M3) lightweight(unlike the M3) sports car. That'll be a proper track tool. The BR-Z/FR-S are essentially lightweight versions of an M3(or what an M3 should be). Neither the M3 nor the BR-Z/FR-S are meant for straight line speed, balance is the name of the game and corner carving is where this car will shine.
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lol not sure if srs or trolling, but okay.
From my understanding, the point of the car is "balance" and not speed.
Its really supposed to shine in the turns, not a drag strip.
I guess if all you're really concerned with the 0-60 then that would explain your view on this car.
All good tho. everyone has different priorities. It just seemed weird to me that someone with a BMW couldn't appreciate another car that is all about handling.
I get the car I'm not a moron. I also get that its' barriers to entry are low and it's supposed to be a poor man's sports car. The people who buy this car and defend it by saying it's "balanced", are speaking in code. What they mean is that it's kinda slow. I actually like this car, but I know they're working on one with a blower and till then this is just an appetizer.

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I like it. I don't understand why people would compare them to the 335i since it is a completely different car. Although, I do agree with 250-300bhp it would have been perfect. On another note that picture in the OP is one of the best angles I've seen. I wish they stuck to the concept though. Production model looks cheap with those chrome lights.
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It's funny when you consider that, not even a decade ago, when BMWs were always on the slow side when it came to acceleration numbers, the roundel fans always proclaimed that driving was more than just numbers, and that it was about balance and handling. It's easy to see what kind of crowd the move to F/I has brought over the past few years.
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It's funny when you consider that, not even a decade ago, when BMWs were always on the slow side when it came to acceleration numbers, the roundel fans always proclaimed that driving was more than just numbers, and that it was about balance and handling. It's easy to see what kind of crowd the move to F/I has brought over the past few years.
This is the new(er) generation of kids(probably ranging from ages 16 - 24) that want to go fast.
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It's funny when you consider that, not even a decade ago, when BMWs were always on the slow side when it came to acceleration numbers, the roundel fans always proclaimed that driving was more than just numbers, and that it was about balance and handling. It's easy to see what kind of crowd the move to F/I has brought over the past few years.
When I got my license in the mid-90's, most cars that we were handed down by our parents or that we could afford on our own were from the mid to late 1980 which meant that a 5.0 Mustang with a whopping 205hp was about as fast as cars got. With "speed" being something exclusive to the very high end at the time, we took our slow cars and put chrome wheels and HUGE stereo systems in them. That's just what was cool back then. I very rarely hear those big bass systems anymore and there are numerous "regular" cars that are Ferrari-fast now. Hell, a stock 135i is as quick to 60 as a F355 was back then and a hand-me-down car for a high school kid could easily be a twin turbo S4, 335, or an E46 M3. It's just a different vehicular world that we're living in.
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