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      06-21-2012, 01:02 PM   #1
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19x9.5 front and back E90 Questions

Hey guys I've been reading a ton of forums trying to understand exactly what needs to be done to get 9.5 in the front. I guess I'm a little confused because Im a new in the subject of lowering, offsets, tires etc.

I tried to PM some of you about it but I'm a new member so I need to do some post first....

Basically I have a BMW 2007 E90, I fell in love with the new Stance Evolutions, and wanted to do 9.5 all around.

When purchasing these rims, there is an option for 2 different offsets 35mm and 20mm. I see people saying +33 +27 etc. Is this because of a spacer to change the offsets? What offset would be needed to run 9.5 in the front?

The stretching of the tires means that the tire "sits in" on the rims to prevent rubbing? Would you run a stretched 235/35/19 just in the front and a different tire in the rear? Or the same.

I also want to lower the car.... if anyone can help me understand I would be thankful!
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      06-21-2012, 01:36 PM   #2
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I have
18x9.5 et35 front with 235/40/18
18x9.5 et22 rear with 235/40/18 lowered with HR sport

Front will be 2-3mm from stock struts, but so far no problems.Wont hit anywhere except if you bend the wheel.

If you are going to use coilovers to lower your car you need spacers to clear coilover struts at front.

So far i havent have any rubbing(NO rolled fenders), but havenīt driven with full load.

You "need" lower offset to rear because otherwise front is more out than rear. I wanted rear wheels to be as flush as front with fenders so i went with differend offsets

Yes stretching tyres is for prevent rubbing if wheel offset is more aggressive. Tyre sidewall goes like this / \.

I dont think 235 is stretched with 9.5 atleast not that bad.

I wanted same size tyres for more neutral behavior, easier fitment and wanted rear to match front.Also i have 320d so need for wider tyres.

You can use wider rear tyre if you want itīs up to you.Fender roll helps you to get wider tyres to fit without rubbing.

Here is couple bad/quick pictures of mine

Front wheel 18x9.5 et35

Rear wheel 18x9.5 et22


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      06-21-2012, 01:48 PM   #3
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Thanks for your help...

So basically with this setup you really dont have to modify anything? Expect for stretching a 235/35/19? No rolled rear fenders?

I was told somewhere that you need a -2 degree camber when its lowered. and +33 in the front.

I will be using the H&R Sport lowering springs.

Does it make a difference that Im going with 19's instead of 18?

So if you had 35mm in the front and 35 in the rear it would look really stupid? You would want 22mm to have it match up better.

What tires do you recommend?
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I havent done nothing to front or rear fenders. No you dont need to mess with camber.Little bit camber comes naturally when car is lowered.

If you want to use something like 265/30/19 at rear you might need slight roll to your rear fenders with 9.5 et20.

9.5 et35 front will fit too.I have it and also have HR sport and have been driving with this setup like 2,5 weeks and not a single problem.

And here is a guy who had 19x9.5 et 35 front with a 245/35/19

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=679925&page=2

In my opion wheels should be in line compared to each other or if not rear should stick out more than front. If you use et35 9.5 for front and rear, front will be flush with fender and rear isnīt.

You can easily use those Stance evolutions at size19x9.5 et 35 front and et20 rear
It will look basically same as mine only bigger wheel. If you are scared that 9.5 et35 is so close to struts you can put 3-5mm spacer to more clearance.

I know couple cases here in forum that bought something like 9.5 et30 allround and ended up buying spacers to push rear wheels out more.

I have Hankook ventus v12 tyres.
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      06-21-2012, 04:54 PM   #5
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MonacoBlue, Thanks for your all your help!!! I just submitted my order for 9.5 all around. Youve been a huge help!

Im ordering 19x9.5 all around with 235 35 19, would you go with that? I wanted to go with the Hankook, but was told falkens would be better for a stretch. Also going to pick up the H&R springs, would you recommend the H&R Sport Spring Set?

I might just order some 3mm spacers just in case... I agree they need to look even.

Ill get some pictures up when I get it finished!

I'm sure Ill be back with a few questions too.
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      06-21-2012, 07:08 PM   #6
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Something else im not understanding is this guy
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=15

is running et38 in the rear. I just ordered the setup you said would be great, being 35mm in the front (+2 mm spacer) = 33et and 20et in the rear. His is over 15mm more, help me understand this please!
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      06-22-2012, 12:45 AM   #7
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Well falkens are known to be narrower than some others tyre brands even if the size is same, but you dont need use falkens if you dont want to.

This car have 235/40/18 falkens and 18x9.5 et35 front wheel

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478510
More about same car bottom of the first post.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468511

^This is the guy who helped me to get 9.5 allround.

H&R is a good brand, i like the ride quality.

Like i said if you want wider tyres to rear its possible.Its your personal preference. Im happy with 235/40/18 at rear.

Here is e91 with 235/35/19 19x9.5et20 rear. Its very low

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=687073

And about that blue car

It has wider wheel 10.5 et38 at rear with 10mm spacer so final et is 28

10.5 et28 is going to stick out only 5mm more than 9.5 et20.
And he has falkens 275/30 which are little bit stretched to that 10.5 size wheel and round sidewall and rear fenders are rolled.
He doesnīt mention anything about camber adjusments.
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      06-23-2012, 12:36 AM   #8
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Thanks for the clearing all that up. It makes a lot more sense now. Ill get some pictures as everything comes in Thanks for your help man. Ive read alot of your other posts too, sorry for being a noob !
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No need to be sorry.Im clad that i can help. I dont really know that much about fitment.Here in the forum is alot of people who knows a lot more and have far more experience.

I did a lot of searching around the web and forums, when i was choosing wheels.I came across alot of different setups and use those now as an example to others.

Offset calculator at top of this page is good for compare different wheels.
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Hey guys I've been reading a ton of forums trying to understand exactly what needs to be done to get 9.5 in the front. I guess I'm a little confused because Im a new in the subject of lowering, offsets, tires etc.

I tried to PM some of you about it but I'm a new member so I need to do some post first....

Basically I have a BMW 2007 E90, I fell in love with the new Stance Evolutions, and wanted to do 9.5 all around.

When purchasing these rims, there is an option for 2 different offsets 35mm and 20mm. I see people saying +33 +27 etc. Is this because of a spacer to change the offsets? What offset would be needed to run 9.5 in the front?

The stretching of the tires means that the tire "sits in" on the rims to prevent rubbing? Would you run a stretched 235/35/19 just in the front and a different tire in the rear? Or the same.

I also want to lower the car.... if anyone can help me understand I would be thankful!
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monaco, this is good info - thanks.

i'm currently planning my next set of wheels and have the following options:

F: 18x9.5 et34
R: 18x9.5 et34 + 12mm spacer for et22

F:18x9.5 et30
R:18x9.5 et22

the second option comes with a newer, more desirable finish so i don't think i can just take the first front option and pair it with the second rear option - if you know what i mean.

anyway, i know the first option will look good in terms of the rears coming out a little further than the fronts.

but how about the second option? will the rears be tucked in further than the fronts?
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monaco, this is good info - thanks.

i'm currently planning my next set of wheels and have the following options:

F: 18x9.5 et34
R: 18x9.5 et34 + 12mm spacer for et22

F:18x9.5 et30
R:18x9.5 et22

but how about the second option? will the rears be tucked in further than the fronts?
I doubt you will notice 4mm difference between front and rear.You can put 5mm spacer to rear with that second option if you want.

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I don't think i can just take the first front option and pair it with the second rear option - if you know what i mean.
I quess, you mean taking front wheels from different set of 4 wheels than rear wheels. Dont do it they will probably look different.
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As an update to this thread, an 18x9.5 generally will not fit an LCI model. Your fenders have more clearance than mine.
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As an update to this thread, an 18x9.5 generally will not fit an LCI model. Your fenders have more clearance than mine.
9.5" on LCI is no problem.
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As an update to this thread, an 18x9.5 generally will not fit an LCI model. Your fenders have more clearance than mine.
9.5" on LCI is no problem.
It is for the front without some modifications like camber, camber plates, stretched tires, or spacers.
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Doesn't mean it won't fit. I have 18x9.5" and 18x11" on E90 LCI with zero rubbing. No camber plates necessary and spacers push the wheels out further. I think you're talking out of your ass, honestly.
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9.5 et30-33 will fit no problem with a 235 in the front.
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9.5 et30-33 will fit no problem with a 235 in the front.
Says the guy with a non-LCI model in his username.
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Says the guy with a non-LCI model in his username.
There's no difference between LCI and pre-LCI in the front.
I run 18x9.5" et19 225/40 up front without rubbing, thought I wish I did 9.5" et25.
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Says the guy with a non-LCI model in his username.
There's no difference between LCI and pre-LCI in the front.
I run 18x9.5" et19 225/40 up front without rubbing, thought I wish I did 9.5" et25.
Are you lowered? You have no problems with 9.5 et19??
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Says the guy with a non-LCI model in his username.
There's no difference between LCI and pre-LCI in the front.
I run 18x9.5" et19 225/40 up front without rubbing, thought I wish I did 9.5" et25.
My bad, but I dont think a 225 is recommended for 9.5 width. I guess my point is the 9.5 really isn't a good, direct fitment in the front.
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