Akuma ATP Pro Tune Review!! - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

BuraQ · 07-13-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by woptang22

......Well Im very happy with the delta gains, but thought the car would have more power. But John(owner of Akuma) said he did a conservative tune so the car would be reliable for years to come. He said he could pull more power out of the car if Id like....

It is possible with FBO to get 400+ whp and still be within safe territory of the turbos "specs"

Anyhow, those are good numbers for the temps they were done in. The meth helped alot with that.

dfv2 · 07-13-2012, 11:35 AM

Sorry if I missed it, were logs showing timing provided? Timing up top must be pretty conservative as the torque nose dives.

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dfv2

Sorry if I missed it, were logs showing timing provided? Timing up top must be pretty conservative as the torque nose dives.

I dont believe it shows timing. But when I picked the car up he said there were no timing corrections at all. He said if I wanted to get more aggressive he could play with the timing. I want to drive the car a few days though to get a good feel for it.

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

It is possible with FBO to get 400+ whp and still be within safe territory of the turbos "specs"

Anyhow, those are good numbers for the temps they were done in. The meth helped alot with that.

I was thinking the HP #s would be higher, but like you said they were not ideal conditions. Plus he kept it on the conservative side. John at Akuma said to drive the car and if I would like to get more aggressive just to give him a call.

Alpina_B3_Lux · 07-13-2012, 12:17 PM

These are very nice numbers, good to see such a visible delta between each map. It shows that the OTS maps from COBB still leave some room to work with, and that obviously a map adapted for methanol can increase the power quite a bit.

I'm currently getting "pro tuned" by Pro Tuning Freaks and am in the process of trying out a few maps which already feel quite good (no meth map yet). It's a bit more difficult in my case as I need to be remotely tuned due to the absence of pro tuning shops in Europe.

Alpina_B3_Lux

rader1 · 07-13-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by woptang22

I dont believe it shows timing. But when I picked the car up he said there were no timing corrections at all. He said if I wanted to get more aggressive he could play with the timing. I want to drive the car a few days though to get a good feel for it.

Do some logging and post up the logs!!!

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

Do some logging and post up the logs!!!

I will definately do that. Good idea.

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 12:26 PM

It sounds like you got a good thing going on though. Remote tuning seems to be getting more popular. And Im sure you will see great results. And its good to hear that most people see the #s I got as pretty good. I guess I still have a bit more power that can be gained.

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Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux

These are very nice numbers, good to see such a visible delta between each map. It shows that the OTS maps from COBB still leave some room to work with, and that obviously a map adapted for methanol can increase the power quite a bit.

I'm currently getting "pro tuned" by Pro Tuning Freaks and am in the process of trying out a few maps which already feel quite good (no meth map yet). It's a bit more difficult in my case as I need to be remotely tuned due to the absence of pro tuning shops in Europe.

Alpina_B3_Lux

benzy89 · 07-13-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpina_B3_Lux

I'm currently getting "pro tuned" by Pro Tuning Freaks

Alpina_B3_Lux

+1 for the PTF team, can't wait to get my ProTune map made

John@Akuma · 07-13-2012, 01:36 PM

Thanks so much for the positive review. I am glad to hear you are enjoying the car.

The Dyno plots show 3 different maps for reference. This way we have a control group to analyze the gains. The maps shown are the Cobb OTS STG2, COBB OTS STG2+ Aggressive, and Akuma's protune. I did this so we could compare our dyno numbers to other dynos. A Dynojet is pretty standard as far as numbers go, but a Mustang or Dyno Dynamics can be altered with a correction factor. I figured the community had some Cobb OTS numbers so we could show the delta change and give a less subjective view of the power delivery.

We are very pleased to start doing more work in the community. I think the BMW platform has tons of potential and we are stoked to be able to finally control the DME and move into modding these cars.

We look forward to work with the community very soon. We should have a dyno day and BBQ coming up next month, so hopefully we will see you guys there.

John

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 01:51 PM

Hey John, whats up man. Loving the car so far. The delivery of power is so much better then it was before. And the power is definately there. Im hoping something will come together to get a group buy going for the locals. Im sure everyone here would love a nice tune from Akuma. The work done was an A+ and I couldnt speak highly of these guys. Thanks again John . I hope something comes together as far as getting more BMWs into your shop.
We are very pleased to start doing more work in the community. I think the BMW platform has tons of potential and we are stoked to be able to finally control the DME and move into modding these cars

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Originally Posted by John@Akuma

Thanks so much for the positive review. I am glad to hear you are enjoying the car.

The Dyno plots show 3 different maps for reference. This way we have a control group to analyze the gains. The maps shown are the Cobb OTS STG2, COBB OTS STG2+ Aggressive, and Akuma's protune. I did this so we could compare our dyno numbers to other dynos. A Dynojet is pretty standard as far as numbers go, but a Mustang or Dyno Dynamics can be altered with a correction factor. I figured the community had some Cobb OTS numbers so we could show the delta change and give a less subjective view of the power delivery.
Hey John, whats up man. Loving the car so far. The delivery of power is so much better then it was before. And the power is definately there. Im hoping something will come together to get a group buy going for the locals. Im sure everyone here would love a nice tune from Akuma. The work done was an A+ and I couldnt speak highly of these guys. Thanks again John . I hope something comes together as far as getting more BMWs into your shop.
We are very pleased to start doing more work in the community. I think the BMW platform has tons of potential and we are stoked to be able to finally control the DME and move into modding these cars.

We look forward to work with the community very soon. We should have a dyno day and BBQ coming up next month, so hopefully we will see you guys there.

John

marcvtec · 07-13-2012, 04:43 PM

Nice jump in power
Any baseline without tune? But with your bolt ons ?

woptang22 · 07-13-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by marcvtec

Nice jump in power
Any baseline without tune? But with your bolt ons ?

No I didnt get a baseline with just boltons. Probably should have. But I just needed my car back so I was kind of hurrying Akuma because I had no other transportation. But I should have gotten a baseline.

roadkillrob · 07-13-2012, 06:08 PM

Hand drawing the dyno graphs is a nice touch also

07-13-2012, 11:35 AM	#24
dfv2 STiGuy Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 425 iTrader: (2)	Sorry if I missed it, were logs showing timing provided? Timing up top must be pretty conservative as the torque nose dives. __________________ //ecg//

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Alpina_B3_Lux Colonel Drives: BMW 335i E90 LCI, 330d E91 LCI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 2,324 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i [4.90]	These are very nice numbers, good to see such a visible delta between each map. It shows that the OTS maps from COBB still leave some room to work with, and that obviously a map adapted for methanol can increase the power quite a bit. I'm currently getting "pro tuned" by Pro Tuning Freaks and am in the process of trying out a few maps which already feel quite good (no meth map yet). It's a bit more difficult in my case as I need to be remotely tuned due to the absence of pro tuning shops in Europe. Alpina_B3_Lux __________________ 335i E90 - azurite black - Merino Champagne - ALPINA aerodynamics package+19" rims (2010 design) - Helix FMIC - Forge DVs - ar design catless ceramic coated DPs - HJS secondary race cats - Bastuck quad exhaust - BMS catch can - Performance Friction BBK - UUC SSK+DSSR - Quaife LSD - M3 conversion - Öhlins Road & Track - STETT CP - Alpina replica intake - COBB ProTuned - Snow meth kit - Rixster Boost Gauge v2 - VAC diff cover - HPF Feramic stage 1 - RB turbos - mods review

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marcvtec Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto Posts: 1,596 iTrader: (0)	Nice jump in power Any baseline without tune? But with your bolt ons ? __________________ COBB Powered, Spec2+, DCI, Forge DV's, AR catless DP's, AA FMIC, 19' BBS LM's wrapped in PSS, Zimmerman cross drilled rotors, hawk carbon pads, M3 Spoiler, AC roof Spoiler, Aero Lip, Vorsteiner Diffuser, m3 sides, Tinted, And One Happy BMW Driver.

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07-13-2012, 01:36 PM	#32
John@Akuma Drives: 2010 BMW135 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 18 iTrader: (0)	Thanks so much for the positive review. I am glad to hear you are enjoying the car. The Dyno plots show 3 different maps for reference. This way we have a control group to analyze the gains. The maps shown are the Cobb OTS STG2, COBB OTS STG2+ Aggressive, and Akuma's protune. I did this so we could compare our dyno numbers to other dynos. A Dynojet is pretty standard as far as numbers go, but a Mustang or Dyno Dynamics can be altered with a correction factor. I figured the community had some Cobb OTS numbers so we could show the delta change and give a less subjective view of the power delivery. We are very pleased to start doing more work in the community. I think the BMW platform has tons of potential and we are stoked to be able to finally control the DME and move into modding these cars. We look forward to work with the community very soon. We should have a dyno day and BBQ coming up next month, so hopefully we will see you guys there. John