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      07-15-2012, 01:28 PM   #23
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I agree. Needs time to settle

Did ride quality change?

Did u keep Oem struts?
Yep kept OEM Msport struts, only spring changed.



The ride quality has been improved incredibly..... I just got back from the Lake district..... took advantage of them country roads

But still though, I need a drop
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      07-15-2012, 01:44 PM   #24
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Thx for reply

Ride quality improved?

Thinking of same change

So less vibrations, and better handling?

Or just better handling

I live near bad roads. Worried about ride quality

I also have msport



So u kept Oem struts?
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Thx for reply

Ride quality improved?

Thinking of same change

So less vibrations, and better handling?

Or just better handling

I live near bad roads. Worried about ride quality

I also have msport



So u kept Oem struts?
Better handling! Less roll on corners, my car feels glue'd to the road!
No real change to vibrations personally, but ride does feel somewhat smoother!

Some peeps have changed struts, apparantley Bilstein's struts seem a popular combo with Eibachs!

Are you going for drop or wanting specific handling changes? or both?
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      07-15-2012, 03:02 PM   #26
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Why do coupe's have that huge gap in the front anyway? BMW should be ashamed of themselves making a sports coupe with 4x4 front wheel gap and a modest rear wheel gap!

Anyway rant over, my e90 also looks like the red car in your pic, and its only a 320d (not sure of weight compared to i), although it is a saloon...

Who fitted yours, and were the rubber spring perches changed at all (they get a bit squished over time and can take an easy 6mm+ off the original ride height)?

Are the springs mounted properly on the lower seat and located properly in the upper seat?

I know they settle after the first 2 weeks or so but I echo what has been said in that they will not drop by as much as they would need to to look like the red one.
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Anyway rant over, my e90 also looks like the red car in your pic, and its only a 320d (not sure of weight compared to i)
320d is heavier than 320i, hence different springs for them.
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Why do coupe's have that huge gap in the front anyway? BMW should be ashamed of themselves making a sports coupe with 4x4 front wheel gap and a modest rear wheel gap!

Anyway rant over, my e90 also looks like the red car in your pic, and its only a 320d (not sure of weight compared to i), although it is a saloon...

Who fitted yours, and were the rubber spring perches changed at all (they get a bit squished over time and can take an easy 6mm+ off the original ride height)?

Are the springs mounted properly on the lower seat and located properly in the upper seat?

I know they settle after the first 2 weeks or so but I echo what has been said in that they will not drop by as much as they would need to to look like the red one.
I got it all done at m-style in romford london.

Im not sure if they changed the rubber perches? I asked them about sourcing those perches that are avail from the US. If not i'll order them myself!

Ah well
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      07-15-2012, 04:42 PM   #29
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I got eibach prokit fitted 2 weeks ago and was horribly disappointed with the drop.

The front and rear dont appear to have changed much if any.

The m3 lower control arms I fitted though .... Absolutely fab.
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The m3 lower control arms I fitted though .... Absolutely fab.
Ooo what are these control arms mate? Can you share some info about these?

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Once again I really can't understand how some people are seeing a drop and others aren't noticing any difference whatsoever? This is very confusing. I was going to get these fitted when I change my alloys but this has thrown it all out again. Why are these things never clear cut?
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Once again I really can't understand how some people are seeing a drop and others aren't noticing any difference whatsoever? This is very confusing. I was going to get these fitted when I change my alloys but this has thrown it all out again. Why are these things never clear cut?
I know bro!!! Atleast you havent thrown 300 down the shitter
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      07-15-2012, 05:46 PM   #33
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I ordered the Eibach pro-kit on Saturday looks like 180 down the drain. Its weird googled lots of images with these fitted and all the cars were sitting pretty with these fitted.
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      07-15-2012, 11:43 PM   #34
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OP changed M-sports ---> eibach pro (difference is hardly noticeable as eibach kit states, less reduction on sports suspensions).

Paul changed SE suspension ---> Eibach bro + B4 + bump stops. (difference is more as SE---> Eibach + shorter bump stops.
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I didn't MSport to Pro Kit for me.

Pro-Kit says 30-35mm drop. MSport is 20mm drop over SE, so the Eibachs should give a good 10-15mm drop compared to Msport. My results agree with that.
My ride height drop also confirms this... 10mm drop after settling and has stabilised since over a year ago.
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      07-16-2012, 05:05 AM   #35
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Hey guys,

Just got my Eibach Pro kit fitted earlier today. I have an M-sport with an annoying arch gap I wanted to minimise.

I'm truly disappointed with the drop. Probably dropped by 1mm max! yes! 1mm!

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Atleast my car's handling feels fantastic now and there seems to be less rolling on corners.... It's probably psychological....

EDIT: My car is a 320i
Simple question; did you fit the correct springs for the 320i, what part number? Manufacturer Part: E10-20-014-12-22 ? Or the higher rated set, E10-20-014-13-22 ?

The 2 options available allow for a 60kg front weight difference.

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This is why I took the H&R springs off Chris...

I'm hoping they won't be the full 60/40 but somewhere in the middle which I'll be very happy with!
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Simple question; did you fit the correct springs for the 320i, what part number? Manufacturer Part: E10-20-014-12-22 ? Or the higher rated set, E10-20-014-13-22 ?

The 2 options available allow for a 60kg front weight difference.

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Not sure in the OP's case but we've had several other people who have had the Eibach Pro's kit fitted who have reported no change in ride height. Some of which have had plenty of time for the suspension to settle. Surely they can't all have fitted the wrong parts?

At the same time we have also had other people report a significant drop, surely there has to be a logical reason for this?

OP, did you buy and get it fitted all at the same place? Have you asked m-style why the ride height hasn't changed? I'b asking for my money back to be honest!
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How can ONE spring set from eibach / whoever be supposed to work properly for all these different models?

From the factory BMW fit varying springs to each model, depending on model / spec / engine size and even certain options like sunroof and autobox which are heavy for example.

You can see this if your BMW part man is friendly and you have a look at the computer parts screen and go to the springs selector page, after you select the model you have to tick what options you have and these will change the spring part number.

That is why the BMW performance kit comes without springs and you have to get those separate as they are car specific. Again this is why you can't get spring tag numbers from realoem either.

For me this is one reason to avoid generic off the shelf kits.

The Birds B3 suspension kit is built and developed on 335i's so I knew it was going to be the best available. Sorry if you don't have a 335i
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How can ONE spring set from eibach / whoever be supposed to work properly for all these different models?

From the factory BMW fit varying springs to each model, depending on model / spec / engine size and even certain options like sunroof and autobox which are heavy for example.

You can see this if your BMW part man is friendly and you have a look at the computer parts screen and go to the springs selector page, after you select the model you have to tick what options you have and these will change the spring part number.

That is why the BMW performance kit comes without springs and you have to get those separate as they are car specific. Again this is why you can't get spring tag numbers from realoem either.

For me this is one reason to avoid generic off the shelf kits.

The Birds B3 suspension kit is built and developed on 335i's so I knew it was going to be the best available. Sorry if you don't have a 335i
Eibach's are car specific, different compression rates for different models.
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Eibach's are car specific, different compression rates for different models.
Yes of course different ones for coupe or saloon or tourer etc, but do they provide different springs within a body shape, for example, would a saloon 320d or a 330d or a 335i get different springs from Eibach? I don't think so?
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Yes of course different ones for coupe or saloon or tourer etc, but do they provide different springs within a body shape, for example, would a saloon 320d or a 330d or a 335i get different springs from Eibach? I don't think so?
I'm sorry mate, but yes they do.
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From what I can see on the Eibach website there seem to be 3 part numbers available for the E9x cars.

E10-20-014-14-22 Axle load front rated at 930kg
E10-20-014-15-22 Axle load front rated at 990kg
E10-20-014-16-22 Axle load front rated at 1085kg

All rear axle loads are the same rated at 1200kg.

14 numbered parts are for 318i-320i petrol engines and 320d diesels
15 numbered parts are for 325i-335i petrol engines
16 numbered parts are for 325d-330d diesel engines (no 335d listed)

I wonder if it's just a case of the wrong part numbers being fitted. That doesn't explain however the poster who had some springs fitted to his 335i unless they fitted the heavier rated 16 numbered part by mistake which again might account for no drop.

The website definately states this in the blurb for the pro kit

"Pro-Kit also reduces excessive fender well clearance, making your car look just as hot as it performs" so if it doesn't make a difference I'd say something is definately not right.

Also the sportline kits are definately also listed as progressive springs on the website. I just wonder if the drop is too aggrresive on that kit and will cause issues over speedbumps, especially for those with front spoilers\splitters.
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I'm sorry mate, but yes they do.
Apologies mate.

In that case, the OPs problem sounds like the wrong springs have been fitted then?

Other posts about heavier cars having more drop won't apply if the correct springs are used then?
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335d E92 has only one part number for EPK
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