**********s Credit Card Fraud Problem back? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Brey335i · 07-25-2012, 01:31 PM

I know **********s had a problem with CC fraud a few years back, but a recent experience might mean it's come back.

I use my card with **********s a few days ago. The only online transaction with that card in a long time. A few days later, my card is permanently blocked for fraudulent charges.

Everyone who has bought anything through the **********s website lately, please check your account statements for any problems. Hopefully it was just a freak incident that happened to me.

ACEE · 07-26-2012, 10:22 AM

I recently bought something from them...and everything worked out fine. No additional charges or anything.

Brey335i · 07-26-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ACEE

I recently bought something from them...and everything worked out fine. No additional charges or anything.

Keep a close eye for the next couple of weeks.

Also, it hasn't happened to me before, but there is a common denominator among forum members on several forums that have had issues with CC Fraud. And that denominator is recently ordering from **********s.

Like I said, you might not have a problem. But there is a chance.

themyst · 07-27-2012, 10:37 AM

These guys have been around for a long time dating back to the E46 days. I find it very hard to believe they would be doing it intentionally.

Brey335i · 07-30-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

These guys have been around for a long time dating back to the E46 days. I find it very hard to believe they would be doing it intentionally.

I'm not saying it's intentional. But it was an issue before and just happened to me as well after ordering :/

All I'm saying is that people should keep an eye on their account after any ordering online.

ACEE · 07-30-2012, 05:41 PM

I'll keep that in mind...this would be my 2-3 order from them...so I'll look closer

pnutty · 07-30-2012, 10:37 PM

I think its just bad luck. Like OP says it's not the vendor whos doing the fraud but sometimes some data gets compromised and the customer gets left with a blocked card.

My card was just blocked last week but it had nothing to do with **********s.

Bigwen · 12-08-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

I know **********s had a problem with CC fraud a few years back, but a recent experience might mean it's come back.

I use my card with **********s a few days ago. The only online transaction with that card in a long time. A few days later, my card is permanently blocked for fraudulent charges.

Everyone who has bought anything through the **********s website lately, please check your account statements for any problems. Hopefully it was just a freak incident that happened to me.

That happens every hour on the hour around the world. That happens it has happen to me. Cancel your card and get a new card number and everything will be all right. Simple.

fibonacci · 01-12-2013, 04:46 PM

Credit card companies monitor activity and can block purchases or the card itself if it detects something it considers to be outside of normal activity. If you hardly ever use your card, then use it to make a substantially large purchase at a car-parts purchasing website (which I would wager sees more of this than brick & mortar stores), this could happen. Here it sounds like they had a reasonable presumption to do so (even though they were incorrect).

Consumers are liable for no more than $50 of purchases due to credit card fraud, $0 if reported prior to the fraud itself (if you lost a card, reported it, and was successfully used afterwards).

According to FTC, Credit Card Loss or Fraudulent Charges:
"Under the FCBA, your liability for unauthorized use of your credit card tops out at $50. However, if you report the loss before your credit card is used, the FCBA says you are not responsible for any charges you didn’t authorize. If your credit card number is stolen, but not the card, you are not liable for unauthorized use."

Note that the credit card companies are liable for the damages, so it is in their best interest to monitor activity for fraud and block potentially unauthorized activity - even if it means an inconvenience to the customer. Well, it's an insurance claim - so its between them and their insurance co. But you get the idea.

Fraud happens when someone steals the card number, it's that simple. Anyone you physically hand the card to or is capable of intercepting it during a transaction. All it takes is one bad person, and I would say doesn't necessarily mean a business itself is at fault.

Why was the name of the vendor redacted?

skinrock · 01-12-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fibonacci

Why was the name of the vendor redacted?

Because the vendor was banned. Whether it was for this (which I highly doubt) or other reasons, their account was banned and the forum owners don't want them getting free advertising through reviews or suggestions.

Wolf 335 · 01-12-2013, 06:23 PM

no pay-pal no business from me

AndyR83 · 01-14-2013, 07:34 PM

I've done business with them numerous times and never had any issues.

07-25-2012, 01:31 PM	#1
Brey335i Brigadier General Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 4,741 iTrader: (11)	********s Credit Card Fraud Problem back? I know ******s had a problem with CC fraud a few years back, but a recent experience might mean it's come back. I use my card with ******s a few days ago. The only online transaction with that card in a long time. A few days later, my card is permanently blocked for fraudulent charges. Everyone who has bought anything through the ********s website lately, please check your account statements for any problems. Hopefully it was just a freak incident that happened to me.
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07-26-2012, 10:22 AM	#2
ACEE Average Car Exceeding Expectations (ACEE) Drives: 2007 335i e92 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 2,871 iTrader: (7) Garage List 2007 e92 [3.50]	I recently bought something from them...and everything worked out fine. No additional charges or anything. __________________ MSport front// CPS Front lip// M3 Side Skirts// Custom M3 (non wide body) rear bumper// VRS Type 1 Rear Diffuser// ACS style roof spoiler// AC Schnitzer Pedals// VRSF FMIC// AFE Intake// Magnaflow Axle Back// KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers// 20" Volk GT30 BUY MY VOLKS // Vredestein Tires// Custom sound sytem

07-27-2012, 10:37 AM	#4
themyst Major General Drives: E90 335i LCI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 6,326 iTrader: (8)	These guys have been around for a long time dating back to the E46 days. I find it very hard to believe they would be doing it intentionally. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT

07-30-2012, 05:41 PM	#6
ACEE Average Car Exceeding Expectations (ACEE) Drives: 2007 335i e92 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 2,871 iTrader: (7) Garage List 2007 e92 [3.50]	I'll keep that in mind...this would be my 2-3 order from them...so I'll look closer __________________ MSport front// CPS Front lip// M3 Side Skirts// Custom M3 (non wide body) rear bumper// VRS Type 1 Rear Diffuser// ACS style roof spoiler// AC Schnitzer Pedals// VRSF FMIC// AFE Intake// Magnaflow Axle Back// KSport Kontrol Pro Coilovers// 20" Volk GT30 BUY MY VOLKS // Vredestein Tires// Custom sound sytem

07-30-2012, 10:37 PM	#7
pnutty Lieutenant Drives: 335 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 482 iTrader: (11)	I think its just bad luck. Like OP says it's not the vendor whos doing the fraud but sometimes some data gets compromised and the customer gets left with a blocked card. My card was just blocked last week but it had nothing to do with **********s. __________________

01-12-2013, 04:46 PM	#9
fibonacci Fancy Member Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NY Posts: 67 iTrader: (1)	Credit card companies monitor activity and can block purchases or the card itself if it detects something it considers to be outside of normal activity. If you hardly ever use your card, then use it to make a substantially large purchase at a car-parts purchasing website (which I would wager sees more of this than brick & mortar stores), this could happen. Here it sounds like they had a reasonable presumption to do so (even though they were incorrect). Consumers are liable for no more than $50 of purchases due to credit card fraud, $0 if reported prior to the fraud itself (if you lost a card, reported it, and was successfully used afterwards). According to FTC, Credit Card Loss or Fraudulent Charges: "Under the FCBA, your liability for unauthorized use of your credit card tops out at $50. However, if you report the loss before your credit card is used, the FCBA says you are not responsible for any charges you didn’t authorize. If your credit card number is stolen, but not the card, you are not liable for unauthorized use." Note that the credit card companies are liable for the damages, so it is in their best interest to monitor activity for fraud and block potentially unauthorized activity - even if it means an inconvenience to the customer. Well, it's an insurance claim - so its between them and their insurance co. But you get the idea. Fraud happens when someone steals the card number, it's that simple. Anyone you physically hand the card to or is capable of intercepting it during a transaction. All it takes is one bad person, and I would say doesn't necessarily mean a business itself is at fault. Why was the name of the vendor redacted?

01-12-2013, 06:23 PM	#11
Wolf 335 First Lieutenant Drives: 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: GTA Posts: 340 iTrader: (0)	no pay-pal no business from me

01-14-2013, 07:34 PM	#12
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 579 iTrader: (5)	I've done business with them numerous times and never had any issues. __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!

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