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      12-21-2012, 11:27 AM   #1497
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      12-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #1498
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Mercedes has always had the 'badass' factor. From the Gullwing all aluminum 50's 300SL's which are pretty much a street legal race cars with a tailor made interior (literally) to the 6.3 liters back in the 70s AMG 4 door cars to the E63 wagons today with carbon breaks.

The new 5.5 BiTurbo's (E63, S63,CL63 etc.) can make 800 wheel torque with a tune on E85 and they have 7 speed wet clutch automatics. Would love to own


The 5.5 liter bi turbo v12 is a 65. The s65 sl65 cl65 than you have the 63 which is I believe a v8 torquey less hp my m6 eats these for breakfast. After mardi gras it's gonna be a cl65 or a gtr for sure I jus got in a full blown out convo about that car and it's been impressive so I guess it's not as bad as I thought, just wish the interior was just as bad ass. For what it's worth , amg has been on its game, I still think the m3 is still king in the sedan wars ie: c63, Lexus lfa, Audi . But I'm noticing they just infuse their cars with more hp to compete. I've Always love highway races or even dig I wouldn't mind, never Ben on a road coarse, I hear its fun and maybe ill get on a road coarse one day and see what all the noise is about . I'm excited though either way.
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      12-21-2012, 04:48 PM   #1499
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Lol says who! He has nuts because he takes cheeks out here for what it is. Damn man, I must admit I really wish BMW would step it up, it's the HIGHEST most sold luxury car in the world but Mercedes has really bested it in the higher trim package levels. We need something to compete with the likes of the SLS, the Cl65, the S65, the SLR, I mean damn, it's not like the damn company is broke. Mercedes really has the championship belt when it comes to power and motors. :-/
AMG has been on its game for the last few years. That 6.2...damn. But, the power and trim is not everything. MB has that going for them, but most of those high trim cars are land yachts that handle as such. BMW is a complete package that noone else has replicated. They don't need all of that power and in your face pizzazz. And, a lot of us love that.

After metting you and hearing your taste in driving style, a CL65 sounds perfect for you. And, I mean that in the nicest way possible.

That's cool bro it's all good,

This may be a shot in the dark asking in a bimmer forum.

Does anyone know the wats the difference between the 2009 gtr - 2013? I heard they fixed the tranny issue but did they upgrade the motor etc?
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      12-21-2012, 05:18 PM   #1500
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The 5.5 liter bi turbo v12 is a 65. The s65 sl65 cl65 than you have the 63 which is I believe a v8 torquey less hp my m6 eats these for breakfast. After mardi gras it's gonna be a cl65 or a gtr for sure I jus got in a full blown out convo about that car and it's been impressive so I guess it's not as bad as I thought, just wish the interior was just as bad ass. For what it's worth , amg has been on its game, I still think the m3 is still king in the sedan wars ie: c63, Lexus lfa, Audi . But I'm noticing they just infuse their cars with more hp to compete. I've Always love highway races or even dig I wouldn't mind, never Ben on a road coarse, I hear its fun and maybe ill get on a road coarse one day and see what all the noise is about . I'm excited though either way.
No, the v12 biturbo is a 6.0L engine. The new V8 is a 5.5L engine which is also biturbo. Onurleft is correct.
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      12-21-2012, 05:29 PM   #1501
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You're right I'm tripping hard lol I was looking at a cl600 just now HAHAH my apologies
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That's cool bro it's all good,

This may be a shot in the dark asking in a bimmer forum.

Does anyone know the wats the difference between the 2009 gtr - 2013? I heard they fixed the tranny issue but did they upgrade the motor etc?
2009 had the original LC1 that was breaking trannys with the traction control off
cars were reprogrammed to LC2 with a lower launch RPM
2010 upgraded LC2 not much different went from 480-485 bhp
2011 LC3 a little less violent launch a short year for GTR only a couple hundred produced
2012 was the big change went up to 530 bhp, LC4 better 0-60 ,smoother shifting, updated front and rear bumpers and fascia. intro of black edition. updated nav with sharper screen, front led DRL's, smoother ride
2013 same as 12 with 545 bhp LC5 transmission control, faster 0-60 updated tranny cooling for the track for 12-13.


the main difference in the older engines and the newer ones is they changed the turbo inlet pipes and upped the boost. a 2009 with full bolt ons and 2012 with full bolt ons will make the same power because nissan left much less on the table on the 2012-13 provided you change the inlet pipes to the newer
bigger ones.

I almost bought a 2013 black edition back in the summer but I figured since I was going to mod it anyway i'd just keep mine. They sat the 12-13's are more refined and better as a DD. Mine is modded to the point where I wouldn't want to daily it.

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      12-21-2012, 06:26 PM   #1503
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On a side note, the new E63 will be AWD and will be a launching beast.
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      12-22-2012, 01:37 AM   #1504
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On a side note, the new E63 will be AWD and will be a launching beast.
+1 my bro has been looking at that and the c63amg black series. he's thinking about letting go his c63
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      12-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #1505
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On a side note, the new E63 will be AWD and will be a launching beast.
Yeah, holy fuck 500hp 550tq that's almost gtr territory. Lol looks like Mercedes is going for the Nissan title.
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      12-22-2012, 02:34 PM   #1506
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Yeah, holy fuck 500hp 550tq that's almost gtr territory. Lol looks like Mercedes is going for the Nissan title.
Yeah but there are already many cars that make more power but the GT_R has the crazy gearing for the 0-60. I'd love to lease an e63 for a cruiser for me and the wife though. She hates the GT-R.
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      12-22-2012, 02:48 PM   #1507
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Bryan don't forget the newer GTR's are a stiffer structure too and have slightly different suspension geometry (I think the 13' is 15% stiffer then the original but don't quote me on that one)

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Holden's (who posts on here) dad has Renntech CL600 V12 TT with HRE's and big ole' Brembo's. Holden drives it to meets sometimes you might want to check that car out. I think it's a 2010, pretty friggen fast
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      12-22-2012, 07:01 PM   #1510
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Yep, taking it out again on the 29th.
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      12-23-2012, 03:07 AM   #1511
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      12-23-2012, 09:59 AM   #1512
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      12-23-2012, 03:31 PM   #1513
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I believe Proven is a tinter.
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      12-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #1515
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Can't wait for the meet. There are a good group of BR people already going, but you NOLA folks are always welcome
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      12-23-2012, 11:51 PM   #1518
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Hey man, didn't you delete your primary cats? If so, any regrets? pros/cons? I may do that instead of SCing.....for now

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