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      08-20-2014, 03:45 AM   #1
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Alpine retrofit or full blown harness system

Cant decide what to do.

Like the oem approach of the Alpine kit but, think it will lack the kick in the ass I am after.

I know I would love the options rca outs provide plus give me the chance to use my amps,speakers and sub.

Is there anyone local to me with a Alpine setup who can let me have a listen or failing that a shop that can install the harness?

Never hated a stock sound system quite as much as this one!
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Depends what you are after pal.. I've heard both and can say Alpine sounds really good compared to BASE level OEM. It's a great all in package. If you can stretch your budget then you have a whole host of speaker upgrade options.. more popular being Focal KR100 K2, Hertz ESK / HSK range, Rainbow, Morels, MB Quart and so on.

All down to your budget..

Personally, I had to have creme de la creme but it comes at a price. Put it this way, an Alpine package can cost about 350 (parts only). That's the price I paid for just my Sub Amplifier LOL.

So have a think about your budget and if you're in my neck of the woods next month, you're very welcome to hear the set up after it's been tuned up.
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Are you basically after a way of adding a sub?
I got a custom harness made for mine to do exactly that.
I have the Hifi setup with the amp in the boot.
The harness goes between the car loom connector and the amp and give a line level RCA output and also provides a remote out for the sub amp.
It cost me about 100 from America but is literally the perfect plug and play solution for what I needed
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Depends what you are after pal.. I've heard both and can say Alpine sounds really good compared to BASE level OEM. It's a great all in package. If you can stretch your budget then you have a whole host of speaker upgrade options.. more popular being Focal KR100 K2, Hertz ESK / HSK range, Rainbow, Morels, MB Quart and so on.

All down to your budget..

Personally, I had to have creme de la creme but it comes at a price. Put it this way, an Alpine package can cost about 350 (parts only). That's the price I paid for just my Sub Amplifier LOL.

So have a think about your budget and if you're in my neck of the woods next month, you're very welcome to hear the set up after it's been tuned up.
I have a host of old school amps from many many moons ago, Rockford Fosgate, Phoenix Gold etc etc. I also have a isobaric MB Quart sub that I have not had installed for way to long and this has to be rectified!!!

Still have some HAT comps laying about somewhere but, not sure if they will fit in the e90.


Thanks for the offer mate, if I am down that way will pop across and have a listen.
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Are you basically after a way of adding a sub?
I got a custom harness made for mine to do exactly that.
I have the Hifi setup with the amp in the boot.
The harness goes between the car loom connector and the amp and give a line level RCA output and also provides a remote out for the sub amp.
It cost me about 100 from America but is literally the perfect plug and play solution for what I needed
Hi mate , yes , well a couple of amps, sub and some components. Yours sounds like the sort of thing I need, was it difficult to fit ?
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Just yesterday i ordered a pnp quad lock harness from monster audio. Cost me 61 delivered. Think this will give u what u want. Gives you 2 or 4 (depending on what harness you go for) RCA outputs
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Did you go for the 4 channel 5m gaz?
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I have the 2 ch version of the quadlock, then have this run a 4ch amp for underseats and front components.

4ch will give you more control if you want MS8 in the future, but I think has some 'bong' related issues as the rears are run from an amp.

5m is plenty for an e90
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I have the 2 ch version of the quadlock, then have this run a 4ch amp for underseats and front components.

4ch will give you more control if you want MS8 in the future, but I think has some 'bong' related issues as the rears are run from an amp.

5m is plenty for an e90
Thanks will get either the 2 or 4 . Easy enough to fit ? Not taken the head unit out before.
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To be honest, fitting the quad can be a pig of a job, virtually zero room behind there. I ended up, after too many hours and too much lost skin off my hands, taking a hacksaw to the corner of the cage that the head unit slots into. Not so much that it effected security of the unit, but enough to give the room it needed. Once I'd done that it fitted fine. All the other dash parts and footwell covers are easy peasy.
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Hi mate , yes , well a couple of amps, sub and some components. Yours sounds like the sort of thing I need, was it difficult to fit ?
All I've added is a sub and amp, so not a full speaker set up.
Fitting was literally a case of unplugging the connector from the Hifi amp, and plug the new harness into that. Then the other end of the new harness into the Hifi amp.
After that fit a sub/amp combination in the usual way
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To be honest, fitting the quad can be a pig of a job, virtually zero room behind there. I ended up, after too many hours and too much lost skin off my hands, taking a hacksaw to the corner of the cage that the head unit slots into. Not so much that it effected security of the unit, but enough to give the room it needed. Once I'd done that it fitted fine. All the other dash parts and footwell covers are easy peasy.
Sounds like the majority of modern cars then , thanks for the info
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All I've added is a sub and amp, so not a full speaker set up.
Fitting was literally a case of unplugging the connector from the Hifi amp, and plug the new harness into that. Then the other end of the new harness into the Hifi amp.
After that fit a sub/amp combination in the usual way
I dont even have the hifi amp [ as far as i know] just the base stereo so mine maybe more straight forward?
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Maybe but say it's the other way round as I have the amp accessable in the boot. I suppose you could get one that fits between the car harness and the headunit? The bloke I got mine off is a member on here called Technic, best to chat with him as it's made custom to exactly what you want/need
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To be honest, fitting the quad can be a pig of a job, virtually zero room behind there. I ended up, after too many hours and too much lost skin off my hands, taking a hacksaw to the corner of the cage that the head unit slots into. Not so much that it effected security of the unit, but enough to give the room it needed. Once I'd done that it fitted fine. All the other dash parts and footwell covers are easy peasy.
I had similar issues, then found if you unscrewed the top of the area where you were trying to force all the plugs into you could run the new plugs easily behind it, rescrew it and it fitted easy!

Can't find pictures but it really was that simple... when you you have everything undone to take the unit out, there is one more piece to unscrew before refitting, slip the plugs behind it... rescrew it and fit the control unit back it... simples!
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Right, when I get home i am ordering a harness from somewhere! Can't live with this sound system any longer.
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Mark,

You can pop round to my works. I have the Alpine kit fitted with logic 7 subs. Makes a massive difference.

You might want to bring your own CD to play as I'm not sure what music you like.
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if you already have all the audio then you are already saving a lot of the money! i have the Alpine system in mine and absolutely love it - with the subs im happy with the sound, obviously not the best but like sam said it depends on how much you want to spend

here's a video of mine at DC14 this year, Alpine Upgrade and 2 x 10JL W7AE's in the rear...

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You can pop round to my works. I have the Alpine kit fitted with logic 7 subs. Makes a massive difference.

You might want to bring your own CD to play as I'm not sure what music you like.
Yeh nice one mate about 12 tomorrow? or anytime that is convenient for you.
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Sumil how did you add the subs and amp to run them?
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if i can remember correctly it was spliced into the cables above the passenger footwell using a high/low converter from the feed to the under seat subs - il find out more detail cos i had this done i was not quite sure
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