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      07-09-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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Disklok or Clutch Claw?

Hi thinking of getting one of these for the beemer as the number of thefts is just getting worst and worst.

So disklok, +ve is more visibile, -ve does it cause marks on any parts of a M-sport steering wheel?

Clutch claw +ve if you mark your pedals/scratch them who cares, -ve its far less visible and someone might break into your car first, then spot it.

What are strength capabilites of each product vs someone breaking/open the lock etc.
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      07-09-2012, 08:58 AM   #2
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I've got a disklok at home, silver version, not used it for about 12 years!

Can try it on Tues / weds night and let you know what it's like.
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      07-09-2012, 09:23 AM   #3
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i use a stoplock Pro steering lock on my car. Its a nice bright yellow deterant and doesnt seem to mark the M sport wheel on my E90
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      07-09-2012, 10:31 AM   #4
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I bought and use a disklok ... on a 330d msport. I have had no issues with it and find it fits easily ... I keep it on the back seat when driving.

It leaves an indentation at the 12 o'clock position ... but that goes after a few hours ... other than that perfect

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      07-09-2012, 11:54 AM   #5
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i'm considering beefing up the security aswell....any more comments guys?...

whats the best wheel lock out there?...

Group buy anyone?
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      07-09-2012, 01:08 PM   #6
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It may have been many years ago but have a picture of one of them stoplocks just bend and thus could just turn the wheel still
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      07-09-2012, 01:40 PM   #7
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It may have been many years ago but have a picture of one of them stoplocks just bend and thus could just turn the wheel still
I've been using my old Disklok on my car for the last 2 months. No problems with fitting or leaving longterm marks. The last time I checked Diskloks (The one that surrounds the entire wheel) is pretty much fool proof, and serves as a good deterrent (You can do things to the diagnostic port, but that wouldn't stop someone from smashing the window and having a go).

Once you get use to it only takes about 30 seconds to put on and take off...still didn't think I would need to stick one on a modern car
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i'm considering beefing up the security aswell....any more comments guys?...

whats the best wheel lock out there?...

Group buy anyone?
Probably the 'disklok' - Thatcham Approved too!
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      07-09-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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Could always get an after market immobiliser fitted, I had a Clifford one that just attached to the fob, that way they may bypass the BMW one easily, but won't be able to drive off without disabling the Clifford!
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Been in to Halfords today to check out the disklok system. While it looks very good it is so fing heavy and bulky. Can't believe anyone could take this off/put it back on car like 5-6 per day. Then find a location in the car to store it when you're driving it.
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It's very easy when you get the knack - 20 secs max.
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It's very easy when you get the knack - 20 secs max.
If that ... yeah, not light ... but really easy to use. I just put mine on the back seat ... it is easy - and I am lazy so anything difficult and I wouldn't use it.

The only thing I do is open the door to give me more space ... other than that - it is great.
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Buying anything less substantial than a disklok is a false economy imo. Something a bit more lightweight may not threaten to chop your finger off if you get it wrong,but at least you won't find it at the side of the road in the gap where you parked your car!
I've had one for about ten years or so and it's fitted every one of my cars without causing any damage at all.After a while,with muscle memory they can be fitted and removed in seconds.
A size small fits an m sport wheel nicely and allows the lock to rotate nicely,but not too loosely to make it harder to remove.
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      07-11-2012, 03:23 AM   #14
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The level of expertise and sophistication used in some of todays vag car theft makes me think either of these options are bordering on redundant. In comparison to some of the techniques being shown and talked about recently surely disabling a disk lock or cutting through a steering wheel must be childsplay? After watching that stolen 1m video in thinking a disk lock could only really have added a minute or so to the theft, and almost certainly wouldn't have prevented the attempt.. :/

Not trying to sound negative, I just want to know what the actual solution is so I can buy it, rather than spend money on something that gives peace of mind but might be worthless
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I've got a disklok at home, silver version, not used it for about 12 years!

Can try it on Tues / weds night and let you know what it's like.
That was the one that was rated as the best defence a few years back (on Fifth Gear iirc).

They got a TWOCer to try to steal a car with various defences on and that was the ONLY one that worked.

Of course tech and thieves move on, so I don't know if that'd still be true.
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I read somewhere (can't remember where) that when tested by Thatcham it survived a 15min attack time, though don't quote me on it!
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I was advised to use a Disklok by a police vehicle crime specialist who is looking at these offences ... that or do something with the OBD like move/blank off, etc.

He said the people nicking BMW's are not going to get around old basic defences ... they are equipped with very little when they steal the cars and will simply move on if say a Disklok is in place ... they normally just have the coder, a GSM signal blocker and something to break the glass ...
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I have a German Shepherd x Husky sitting in the boot of mine most of the time, should be enough of a deterant!
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The level of expertise and sophistication used in some of todays vag car theft makes me think either of these options are bordering on redundant. In comparison to some of the techniques being shown and talked about recently surely disabling a disk lock or cutting through a steering wheel must be childsplay? After watching that stolen 1m video in thinking a disk lock could only really have added a minute or so to the theft, and almost certainly wouldn't have prevented the attempt.. :/

Not trying to sound negative, I just want to know what the actual solution is so I can buy it, rather than spend money on something that gives peace of mind but might be worthless
I've Disklok and Blackjax- worthy of consideration.
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I have a German Shepherd x Husky sitting in the boot of mine most of the time, should be enough of a deterant!
Not to the R.S.P.C.A!! Seriously though, I have used a disklok in my e36 M3 for years, I put a hook through the carpet lining in the boot & then it sits on that vertically out of the way with the bottom resting on the boot floor, the silver one even matches the carpet near enough
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I was advised to use a Disklok by a police vehicle crime specialist who is looking at these offences ... that or do something with the OBD like move/blank off, etc.

He said the people nicking BMW's are not going to get around old basic defences ... they are equipped with very little when they steal the cars and will simply move on if say a Disklok is in place ... they normally just have the coder, a GSM signal blocker and something to break the glass ...
this was my thinking behind just having the stoplock. The guys looking to steal BMW's have probably just come along with a small hammer for the window, a blank key and a coder.

I doubt they'd want to sit outside a busy row of houses, on a main road trying to saw their way through any kind of additional defense. That would definitely get noticed quickly!
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guys, we seriously need to find a decent disklock!...
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