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      08-16-2012, 07:56 PM   #133
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I'm planning on getting a 2007 335i with 89,000 miles it has CPO up until 100K or 05/13. Would I be covered under this service bulletin? I live in FL...
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      08-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #134
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This has zero to do with the lawsuit and everything to do with CA emissions control laws! In CA, for any car that was originally sold in CA, emission-related parts are warranted for 8 years and 82,000 miles. If you have a CA car, look in your maintenance book -- it's right there.

Emissions warranties in other states vary -- you need to check your state.

BTW, injectors are "emission related parts" in CA as well.
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      08-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #135
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sweet deal!...so I guess I will have HPFP and Turbo warranty. Does this cover both wastegates and turbos? Would BMW replace both twins under this service bulletin. I called a few dealers today and they informed me they didn't know about this bulletin...
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      08-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #136
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I would disagree here.
Any failure of the turbo mechanism would be covered if you have not modified your car.

That means impeller coming apart, bearings, etc. There is no exclusion that says it must be wastegate related to be covered.
i work at a dealer, here is a section copied from service bulletin from the actual BMW North America website:

BMW NA has agreed to extend, to a total of 8 years or 82,000 miles, whichever comes first, the emissions warranties covering the Settlement Class Membersí vehicles for any failure of a turbocharger caused by a defect in a turbocharger wastegate.

this has been posted at the beginning of this thread, i dont think they could have made it any more clear.
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      08-17-2012, 06:08 AM   #137
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Sorry I misunderstood I will give my local dealer a call and speak to a service advisor....just want to know that 8 years or 82,000 miles service bulletin will it cover a vehicle from 2007 with already 89,000 miles on it but CPO until 100K?
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      08-17-2012, 06:16 AM   #138
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Sorry I misunderstood I will give my local dealer a call and speak to a service advisor....just want to know that 8 years or 82,000 miles service bulletin will it cover a vehicle from 2007 with already 89,000 miles on it but CPO until 100K?
The 8/82 is which ever comes first so being that u have more than 82 this special extension does not apply. But ur CPOis still good so u should be fine as turbos are covered
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      08-17-2012, 09:22 AM   #139
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hi everyone,

so this is something no one has answered yet:
what other causes can make the turbo fail other than the waste gate on a stock 335?..... again 100% stock
and what are the probabilities of making something other than the waste gate fail on the turbos? this may be a stupid question for some people, but for someone like me is very helpful.

i was quoted $5500 yesterday before i knew about this extended warranty, my car has 65k miles so that gives me hope, my least concern is the dealer playing dumb and not wanting to do it, ill make those b***es do it, im just hoping it is the waste gate that is causing the problem,

thanks for any response.
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      08-17-2012, 10:57 AM   #140
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hi everyone,

so this is something no one has answered yet:
what other causes can make the turbo fail other than the waste gate on a stock 335?..... again 100% stock
and what are the probabilities of making something other than the waste gate fail on the turbos? this may be a stupid question for some people, but for someone like me is very helpful.

i was quoted $5500 yesterday before i knew about this extended warranty, my car has 65k miles so that gives me hope, my least concern is the dealer playing dumb and not wanting to do it, ill make those b***es do it, im just hoping it is the waste gate that is causing the problem,

thanks for any response.
My Dealer wasn't aware of the new TIS they looked it up after i handed a copy to them.

Anyways so far they found that 1 turbo is leaking oil due to the wastegate actuator. So they have put in a Puma case and will work toward resolving the issue. ^_^
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I think mine is doing the same but I'm not sure if it's tied to the waste gate actuator? Do have that clanking noise coming from yours?
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I think mine is doing the same but I'm not sure if it's tied to the waste gate actuator? Do have that clanking noise coming from yours?
The rattle? coming from the front / mid of the passenger side of the engine. Yes.
You could clearly hear it when the car was cold / first started then it would subside but you could hear it a little bit, my guess is the oil was keeping the rattle down lol

I was also throwing Under boost during WOT
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      08-17-2012, 11:57 AM   #143
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I have lately been throwing codes under wide open throttle with a JB3 Map 5. Not sure if it is a boost code or not as I do not want to take it to the dealership and have them see a tuner code. Any ideas on seeing what the code is? And I assume I chould clear them out before I take it in....at least if a tuner one pops up. Also my rattle occurs when it starts cold, but I really dont notice it once its warmed up, is this still an issue?
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I have lately been throwing codes under wide open throttle with a JB3 Map 5. Not sure if it is a boost code or not as I do not want to take it to the dealership and have them see a tuner code. Any ideas on seeing what the code is? And I assume I chould clear them out before I take it in....at least if a tuner one pops up. Also my rattle occurs when it starts cold, but I really dont notice it once its warmed up, is this still an issue?

They will tell you that it's normal on start up for a little rattle.

However under acceleration you shouldn't hear rattle if you do, my money is on wastegates!
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They will tell you that it's normal on start up for a little rattle.

However under acceleration you shouldn't hear rattle if you do, my money is on wastegates!
Thanks Joe, now I just need to be able to tell if it is a wastegate or the exhaust flap.
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I am a bit confused about this bulletin. Will this extended warranty cover the loud and obnoxious rattle from the wastegates under deceleration even if the turbos are working properly otherwise?

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      08-17-2012, 06:25 PM   #148
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Thanks Joe, now I just need to be able to tell if it is a wastegate or the exhaust flap.
Have you tried WOT without using the JB maps, I am not tuned so not sure if this helps but see if you still get Half engine light without using the maps. I was able to throw the car into 3rd and wot and the light would come on right away.

Look for oil on the underbonet as well where the turbos sit mine was soaked.
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Hay Guise,

So if I pick up a non CPO 335 say 2008 model, I don't have to worry about the HPFP or the turbos because they're both under extended warranty now?
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So if I pick up a non CPO 335 say 2008 model, I don't have to worry about the HPFP or the turbos because they're both under extended warranty now?
the 335i is covered for the HPFP, and the Turbos Only if the wastegates are the cause of the failure.
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Why go with stock turbo?

So even if you are swapping out under warranty or out of warranty... why would you ever want to get the stock turbos? The labor will be the same... why not just get the RB Turbos?

Can't you get the RB Turbo for $3k and the install is what the shop charges you, your still going to be under the $5500 that the stealership charges. Shop around at different dealership, see which one will let you provide your own turbos to install and then just send in the new stock turbos for a core refund to RB? Seems like a win/win to me??
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So even if you are swapping out under warranty or out of warranty... why would you ever want to get the stock turbos? The labor will be the same... why not just get the RB Turbos?

Can't you get the RB Turbo for $3k and the install is what the shop charges you, your still going to be under the $5500 that the stealership charges. Shop around at different dealership, see which one will let you provide your own turbos to install and then just send in the new stock turbos for a core refund to RB? Seems like a win/win to me??

Since I am swapping out under warranty I don't see a point in not getting new turbos for free, and not pay anything. If anything I would benefit more from selling the stock turbos and then buying RB's since stockers would be in full working condition. I can see if I was out of warranty then drop those stockers out than get RBs and roll!
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Last time i checked we had FIFTY states.
Pluto doesn't count anymore remember?
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I sure if something failed soon, and you called BMWNA, they might help you out a little bit. BMW is extending the warranty because they know something is wrong.
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