red warning lights in dash...not sure what it means?? pls help - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

satish_141 · 08-11-2012, 03:24 PM

Hi Guys....just today when I started my car I get a combination of these two warning lights...is this an indication that my brake pads are worn out? or low brake fluid? or something else to do with starter or electronic failure..pls let me know, thanks..pls see the attached pic..

nicktyler · 08-11-2012, 03:36 PM

It's the handbrake on and seatbelt not fastened.

satish_141 · 08-11-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nicktyler

It's the handbrake on and seatbelt not fastened.

sorry I took the pic when the car was stopped..I had to lean forward to take close pic so didnt put the seat belt on...

I think for hand brake on you get a "P" in the middle...guess this is something else..

DuckySpud · 08-11-2012, 08:39 PM

A quick search brought up a PDF of all the symbols, think that combo is showing worn brake pads

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckySpud

A quick search brought up a PDF of all the symbols, think that combo is showing worn brake pads

thank you :-)

mistryn · 08-12-2012, 04:08 AM

Whats the condition of your brake pads like?
Looks like to me the sensor has been activated for low brake pad
Check also your brake fluid level (looking at engine bay remove top left plastic cover and the resovoir is located underneath)

alzieboy · 08-12-2012, 05:14 AM

My Wifes 118d kept showing the identical (RED car on ramp) , after a couple of visits back to dealership it was found to be a Can Bus error , this was caused by the Parrot hands free kit installed in car. Once the hand free kit was removed the error never showed up again.

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mistryn

Whats the condition of your brake pads like?
Looks like to me the sensor has been activated for low brake pad
Check also your brake fluid level (looking at engine bay remove top left plastic cover and the resovoir is located underneath)

hi thank you...the brakes seem to be working fine and I remember I have had the rear brake discs and pads done 1.5 years ago and front brake disc and pads done a year ago..so not sure...but yes I will check the brake fluid level now...may be it is the brake fluid gone down...

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by alzieboy

My Wifes 118d kept showing the identical (RED car on ramp) , after a couple of visits back to dealership it was found to be a Can Bus error , this was caused by the Parrot hands free kit installed in car. Once the hand free kit was removed the error never showed up again.

ok..but I havent got any parro kit installed...so guess it is either to with brake pads or brake fluid..will get it checked tomorrow as it is sunday today...only worry is to drive till the garage...may need to go very slowly...

mistryn · 08-12-2012, 06:53 AM

Who did you get your brakes replaced by?
did they use new sensor or replaced old one?

If you have a quick look through your alloys at the condition of the pads this should give you a rough indication. If they are ok (unless you have been doing some heavy braking) I think the garage may not have reset the brake service indicator

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mistryn

Who did you get your brakes replaced by?
did they use new sensor or replaced old one?

If you have a quick look through your alloys at the condition of the pads this should give you a rough indication. If they are ok (unless you have been doing some heavy braking) I think the garage may not have reset the brake service indicator

hi when I got the rear brakes done it was SYTNER BMW sunningdale and when I got the front brakes done it was SYTNER BMW Maidenhead...will check the brake pad condition physically now...I couldn't locate where I could find the brake fluid under the bonnet

makkan00 · 08-12-2012, 07:18 AM

This sometime happens if you disconnect your battery / update your module and system loose the track of your date and time. So computer thinks your services is due.
First thing, check your date and time. If that is correct, move on to next.

Go to service history and see which things are red? Is there anything else which is red other than this sign, and that will answer your question.

If this is only red sign, then check which one is nearest service coming and that may give your clue. If that is your brake pads, then as mistryn and other suggested, worth of checking your pads / sensors.

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by makkan00

This sometime happens if you disconnect your battery / update your module and system loose the track of your date and time. So computer thinks your services is due.
First thing, check your date and time. If that is correct, move on to next.

Go to service history and see which things are red? Is there anything else which is red other than this sign, and that will answer your question.

If this is only red sign, then check which one is nearest service coming and that may give your clue. If that is your brake pads, then as mistryn and other suggested, worth of checking your pads / sensors.

hi thank you...checked the date and time and it is correct...then checked the items in the service history and all the items are YELLOW, none of them shows RED...but my car is due for a MOT end of august so it could be warning that as a vehicle check? because the sign with car on the ramp is for vehicle check I think...either way I will get the brake pads and fluid checked tomorrow....

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 08:29 AM

also What about the handbrake light constantly being on though on the dash? Does that tie in with it just being a standard check?

greatbm · 08-12-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by satish_141

also What about the handbrake light constantly being on though on the dash? Does that tie in with it just being a standard check?

No, should be no handbrake. Looks like brake pads to me.

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by greatbm

No, should be no handbrake. Looks like brake pads to me.

ok...will get new brake pads..

one question...would it be a rear brake pads ten? as the front ones I only got them changed last year?

makkan00 · 08-12-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by greatbm

No, should be no handbrake. Looks like brake pads to me.

What he said.

Out of brake pads, if rears have less life, then start with them.

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by makkan00

What he said.

Out of brake pads, if rears have less life, then start with them.

thank you..makes sense..

Kerr · 08-12-2012, 12:39 PM

When my brakes were needing replaced it goes amber first.

Why don't you check what the status of the brake wear is on your display?

Is will show if it is indeed the brakes that need done rather than guessing.

tmarshall57 · 08-12-2012, 12:53 PM

Presumably the OP has taken the photograph whilst the handbrake is engaged. Hence the handbrake symbol is lit. Presumably the seatbelt wasn't fastened - hence the seatbelt sign is lit.

The vehicle on the ramp symbol means a "Vehicle Check" is due. This is a straightforward visual inspection undertaken by the dealer for which you will be charged an inordinate amount of money for the actual time spent.

I would double check these symbols in the manual before assuming that you need to replace the brakes. All of the symbols are explained in the manual.

satish_141 · 08-12-2012, 01:08 PM

i am not worried about the car on ramp sign...as it is vechicle check..what is worrying is i get the red hand brake indicator on dash while driving and handbrake is put down.....

tmarshall57 · 08-12-2012, 01:16 PM

Defective "handbrake on" switch/sensor? I'm sure that circle with the exclamation mark in the centre means the car thinks that the handbrake is on.

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makkan00 Brigadier General Drives: E90 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: London Posts: 3,933 iTrader: (15)	This sometime happens if you disconnect your battery / update your module and system loose the track of your date and time. So computer thinks your services is due. First thing, check your date and time. If that is correct, move on to next. Go to service history and see which things are red? Is there anything else which is red other than this sign, and that will answer your question. If this is only red sign, then check which one is nearest service coming and that may give your clue. If that is your brake pads, then as mistryn and other suggested, worth of checking your pads / sensors. __________________ AluFelgens, LCI conversion, Eibach Sportsline, CF Interior Trims, Twin exhaust, Sports + Memory seats retrofit ICE: P99RS - Focal 100KRS II - SWS-8s - JL600/6 - JL300/2 - JL1000/1 - JL 12W7 IB My Audio build.

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tmarshall57 Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bury, Lancs, UK Posts: 214 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 e90 330d [0.00] 1997 K1100RS Specia ... [0.00]	Presumably the OP has taken the photograph whilst the handbrake is engaged. Hence the handbrake symbol is lit. Presumably the seatbelt wasn't fastened - hence the seatbelt sign is lit. The vehicle on the ramp symbol means a "Vehicle Check" is due. This is a straightforward visual inspection undertaken by the dealer for which you will be charged an inordinate amount of money for the actual time spent. I would double check these symbols in the manual before assuming that you need to replace the brakes. All of the symbols are explained in the manual. __________________ e90 330d, Montego Blue, Beige Dakota Leather, Auto, Nav Pro, Bluetooth Prep, BMW Connected Drive, Voice Control, Sports Seats, Split Rear Seat, 18" Ellipsoid Wheels Style 162 Burr Walnut Trim

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08-11-2012, 03:36 PM	#2
nicktyler Captain Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Essex Posts: 821 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335i [0.00]	It's the handbrake on and seatbelt not fastened.

08-11-2012, 08:39 PM	#4
DuckySpud Private First Class Drives: 2007 320D Touring Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sheffield Posts: 110 iTrader: (0)	A quick search brought up a PDF of all the symbols, think that combo is showing worn brake pads

08-12-2012, 04:08 AM	#6
mistryn Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW 335D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mids Posts: 1,616 iTrader: (7)	Whats the condition of your brake pads like? Looks like to me the sensor has been activated for low brake pad Check also your brake fluid level (looking at engine bay remove top left plastic cover and the resovoir is located underneath)

08-12-2012, 05:14 AM	#7
alzieboy Second Lieutenant Drives: 318d LCI exclusive edition Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 237 iTrader: (0)	My Wifes 118d kept showing the identical (RED car on ramp) , after a couple of visits back to dealership it was found to be a Can Bus error , this was caused by the Parrot hands free kit installed in car. Once the hand free kit was removed the error never showed up again.

08-12-2012, 06:53 AM	#10
mistryn Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW 335D Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mids Posts: 1,616 iTrader: (7)	Who did you get your brakes replaced by? did they use new sensor or replaced old one? If you have a quick look through your alloys at the condition of the pads this should give you a rough indication. If they are ok (unless you have been doing some heavy braking) I think the garage may not have reset the brake service indicator

08-12-2012, 08:29 AM	#14
satish_141 Second Lieutenant Drives: 320D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reading Posts: 222 iTrader: (0)	also What about the handbrake light constantly being on though on the dash? Does that tie in with it just being a standard check?

08-12-2012, 12:39 PM	#19
Kerr Colonel Drives: 08' 335i Coupe Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 2,705 iTrader: (0)	When my brakes were needing replaced it goes amber first. Why don't you check what the status of the brake wear is on your display? Is will show if it is indeed the brakes that need done rather than guessing.

08-12-2012, 01:08 PM	#21
satish_141 Second Lieutenant Drives: 320D Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Reading Posts: 222 iTrader: (0)	i am not worried about the car on ramp sign...as it is vechicle check..what is worrying is i get the red hand brake indicator on dash while driving and handbrake is put down.....