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      08-15-2012, 04:59 AM   #1
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Just a warning to you all, i know it is common knowledge about how easy it is with these bmw's but my uncle, who was at mine, had his bmw 335d stolen from the drive in the early hours of the morning.

I have cctv which clearly shows 3 scrotes dressed in grey tracksuits breaking the drivers side glass and within 5 mins the car is gone.

Im sickened and shocked.

Be careful people as you never think it is going to happen to you

It was in Birmingham and the reg was LV58 KFY if anyone happens to see it.

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      08-15-2012, 05:02 AM   #2
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No alarm when breaking the glass?

Your uncle must be pressing the lock button twice to turn off the sensors.
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      08-15-2012, 05:08 AM   #3
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Just a warning to you all, i know it is common knowledge about how easy it is with these bmw's but my uncle, who was staying with me, had his bmw 335d stolen from the drive in the early hours of the morning.

I have cctv which clearly shows 3 scrotes dressed in grey tracksuits breaking the drivers side glass and within 5 mins the car is gone.

Im sickened and shocked.

Be careful people as you never think it is going to happen to you

It was in Birmingham and the reg was LV58 KFY if anyone happens to see it.
Shit news Fella,your description of the feckers sounds like the same crew that had the 1M away,I believe that was in Birmingham.

Does this look familiar?



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No alarm when breaking the glass?

Your uncle must be pressing the lock button twice to turn off the sensors.
The alarm sensor has a blind spot right by the drivers wing mirror,ding the glass there and you can access the OBD cover without the alarm going off.
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      08-15-2012, 05:11 AM   #4
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No alarm when breaking the glass?

Your uncle must be pressing the lock button twice to turn off the sensors.
It can easily be broken and the OBD port accessed without triggering the alarm.
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      08-15-2012, 05:14 AM   #5
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Not good to here. Especially as I'm in the Birmingham area.

Hope everything gets sorted out for your uncle.
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      08-15-2012, 05:59 AM   #6
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Did your uncle's car have an iDrive system? I have a large number of CIC unit going up for sale on Ebay all sellers located in the Birmingham area.
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      08-15-2012, 06:09 AM   #7
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Like this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bmw-Comple...item2573e5cc66

Seems too cheap!

May be worth having the Police investigate them in any case!
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      08-15-2012, 07:26 AM   #8
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hi guys thanks for the replies..police have beeon over and taken copy of cctv..

Was just thinking about this as my uncle stayed over last night and he has declared that he parks the car in his garage overnight normally, would that be an issue?

We are getting a little worried but surely if you stayed over at friends/family you cannot be expected to park the car in a garage?
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      08-15-2012, 07:33 AM   #9
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hi guys thanks for the replies..police have beeon over and taken copy of cctv..

Was just thinking about this as my uncle stayed over last night and he has declared that he parks the car in his garage overnight normally, would that be an issue?

We are getting a little worried but surely if you stayed over at friends/family you cannot be expected to park the car in a garage?
How far does your uncle live from you?
basically it has to be garaged at the stated address:
- between certain hours eg 10pm to 6 am
- if it is not garaged between those times then it cannot be within a certain distance of the garaged address.
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      08-15-2012, 07:39 AM   #10
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He lives about a mile away he was at mine for dinner but stayed until late
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      08-15-2012, 07:43 AM   #11
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When you specify location of car for insurance purposes, Im pretty sure they ask for "usual" place its parked, so dont think they can wriggle out of it that easily.

Good luck and keep us updated!
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      08-15-2012, 07:50 AM   #12
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Yep it's the usual place otherwise it wouldn't be insured if you went on holiday or stayed away for work etc. Shouldn't make any difference.
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      08-15-2012, 10:57 AM   #13
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jesus i didnt relise how easy these were to break into how do they start the car?
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      08-15-2012, 11:46 AM   #14
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Yep it's the usual place otherwise it wouldn't be insured if you went on holiday or stayed away for work etc. Shouldn't make any difference.
Most insurance companies specify one place of work.

I can't see there being any problem in the case above. Hope not.
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      08-15-2012, 03:44 PM   #15
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jesus i didnt relise how easy these were to break into how do they start the car?
With a blank key.
It is programmed through the ODB port within a couple of minutes.
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      08-15-2012, 04:52 PM   #16
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Have had that really nauseating feeling all day..bloody scum. Dont wish it on anybody. I have heard you can get the OBD port moved so do it because it could be you next, i thought the same that it weren't going to happen to me too..
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      08-16-2012, 02:12 AM   #17
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I really don't understand why BMW aren't offering to do anything about this - it's clearly a fault with their car so they should pay to get it resolved...
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      08-16-2012, 02:24 AM   #18
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I really don't understand why BMW aren't offering to do anything about this - it's clearly a fault with their car so they should pay to get it resolved...
Because BMW has sold 100,000s (possible millions?) of affected cars globally, even a "cheap" fix would cost the company alot of money...and that doesn't even take into account the logistics involved. Can you imagine every E90/E92/E60 you see on the roads been recalled to your local BMW garage for a 1hr reprogramming? Every BMW garage in the land would be unable to do anything else for months!! BMW will do everything it can to deny all knowledge, their argument would be that the car is secure its just unlawful people have found a way to break the security, BMW cannot control what these people do.

Similarly if a virus gets on to my computer and I loss all my data on the computer I cannot go back to Apple/Bell/HP and claim compensation for producing a computer thats prone to viruses/hackers....Hence why I have 2 physical backups and 1 online backup of all my data, and a Disklock on my E90 BMW.

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Because BMW has sold 100,000s (possible millions?) of affected cars globally, even a "cheap" fix would cost the company alot of money...and that doesn't even take into account the logistics involved. Can you imagine every E90/E92/E60 you see on the roads been recalled to your local BMW garage for a 1hr reprogramming? Every BMW garage in the land would be unable to do anything else for months!! BMW will do everything it can to deny all knowledge..
Correct. However, the US Government has more balls than ours and may compel them do do something and if they do then BMW may make it worldwide. Also the Insurance Companies will notice trends in their actuarial tables and will make BMWs uninsurable unless BMW do something about it.
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So both the 1 Series and all models of 3 Series have the same blind spot for their alarms?? I find that kinda hard to believe, one model perhaps but all of them ?
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      08-16-2012, 02:47 AM   #21
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It uses much the same sensor and it's fairly insensitive. Try locking you car whilst sitting in it - you can move quite a bit before it goes off. Taking out the side window with a centre-punch and sliding your hand down to the easily-reachable OBD cover with a thin cable will be missed by the alarm sensor on many cars I would think.
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      08-16-2012, 03:10 AM   #22
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it's fairly insensitive
I can believe that. I actually left a window fully open the other night while the car was parked on the street. Probably about 16 hours and not a peep.
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