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      08-24-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
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Question Which brake bleeder is best ??

I'm looking to do my 1st time ever of a brake fluid change/bleed and have seen many different types of brake bleeders, so I'd like to know which is the easiest, tried & true tested ?

Are any of the below worth it ??

Phoenix brake bleeder
http://www.brakebleeder.com/products.../v-12-diy.html

Motive products

http://motiveproducts.3dcartstores.c...109_p_101.html

Harbor freight bleeder

http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-b...kit-69328.html
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      08-24-2012, 01:55 PM   #2
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I use to motive and it's been pretty good to me. One thing you gotta watch out for is the condition of the hose. The 20psi your pumping it up to could cause leaks that are not fun to clean.
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      08-24-2012, 02:47 PM   #3
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I use to motive and it's been pretty good to me. One thing you gotta watch out for is the condition of the hose. The 20psi your pumping it up to could cause leaks that are not fun to clean.
I use the Motive too. It's very easy to use. I haven't had to pump it up to 20 psi though... 10 psi does the trick even for the rear calipers. Also, I like to use it just for pressurization (i.e., I don't put fluid in the Motive) - nothing to clean up, but you have to keep an eye on the fluid level in the reservoir and top it up a couple of times.
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      08-24-2012, 06:04 PM   #4
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I use to motive and it's been pretty good to me. One thing you gotta watch out for is the condition of the hose. The 20psi your pumping it up to could cause leaks that are not fun to clean.
I use the Motive too. It's very easy to use. I haven't had to pump it up to 20 psi though... 10 psi does the trick even for the rear calipers. Also, I like to use it just for pressurization (i.e., I don't put fluid in the Motive) - nothing to clean up, but you have to keep an eye on the fluid level in the reservoir and top it up a couple of times.
+2 on the Motive......makes flushing a breeze too.
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      08-24-2012, 06:38 PM   #5
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      08-27-2012, 07:02 PM   #7
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I use a motive cap, but use nitrogen to eliminate moisture
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+1 for Motive pressure bleeder.....don't put any fluid in the bottle and just put the pressure up to about 15 psi and push all the air out.....after each corner is bled, take the pressure off the master cylinder and pour more fluid into the reservoir. That way, you never have to clean out the power bleeder of all that nasty brake fluid, makes for easy cleanup.
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+1 for Motive pressure bleeder.....don't put any fluid in the bottle and just put the pressure up to about 15 psi and push all the air out.....after each corner is bled, take the pressure off the master cylinder and pour more fluid into the reservoir. That way, you never have to clean out the power bleeder of all that nasty brake fluid, makes for easy cleanup.
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+1 for Motive pressure bleeder.....don't put any fluid in the bottle and just put the pressure up to about 15 psi and push all the air out.....after each corner is bled, take the pressure off the master cylinder and pour more fluid into the reservoir. That way, you never have to clean out the power bleeder of all that nasty brake fluid, makes for easy cleanup.
Can you explain more clearly? I have the motive one too. But haven't used it yet cause I've been too lazy to DIY it.
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      08-29-2012, 09:52 AM   #11
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Can you explain more clearly? I have the motive one too. But haven't used it yet cause I've been too lazy to DIY it.

As always, start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder.
1)Get car in the air, remove wheels
2)Open master cylinder and make sure reservoir is full
3) WITHOUT adding any brake fluid to the motive bleeder attach it to the master cylinder
4)pump up the bleeder to 15psi
5) bleed brake
6) (only if you fee like you bled alot of fluid out) relieve pressure from bleeder and add more fluid to master cylinder
7) move on to the next corner and repeat steps 3-6


Once you are done, put the wheels back on, torque, make sure brake fluid is at the MAX level and put away brake bleeder that is still dry and you don't have to clean or pour out and unused brake fluid.

Make sense now?
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      08-29-2012, 11:10 AM   #12
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As always, start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder.
1)Get car in the air, remove wheels
2)Open master cylinder and make sure reservoir is full
3) WITHOUT adding any brake fluid to the motive bleeder attach it to the master cylinder
4)pump up the bleeder to 15psi
5) bleed brake
6) (only if you fee like you bled alot of fluid out) relieve pressure from bleeder and add more fluid to master cylinder
7) move on to the next corner and repeat steps 3-6


Once you are done, put the wheels back on, torque, make sure brake fluid is at the MAX level and put away brake bleeder that is still dry and you don't have to clean or pour out and unused brake fluid.

Make sense now?
This is good but you leave a lot of the old fluid in there. I do the same but right after your step 2, I take out most the fluid in the reservoir with a turkey baster and pour fresh fluid into the reservoir. Then I continue on.
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      08-29-2012, 11:13 AM   #13
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This is good but you leave a lot of the old fluid in there. I do the same but right after your step 2, I take out most the fluid in the reservoir with a turkey baster and pour fresh fluid into the reservoir. Then I continue on.
This is true....typically I will just bleed until I see new fluid coming into my bleeder catch bottle.

As long as you get alot of new fluid in there, and get the air out of the line (biggest concern) then you're good to go.
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I always do the same, before I start take out the old fluid as much I can with a turkey baster, and put some of it into the container I will be flushing into so that the end of the flush hose is always in fluid.

I then top of the reservoir with fresh and go on with the other normal steps.
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As always, start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder.
1)Get car in the air, remove wheels
2)Open master cylinder and make sure reservoir is full
3) WITHOUT adding any brake fluid to the motive bleeder attach it to the master cylinder
4)pump up the bleeder to 15psi
5) bleed brake
6) (only if you fee like you bled alot of fluid out) relieve pressure from bleeder and add more fluid to master cylinder
7) move on to the next corner and repeat steps 3-6


Once you are done, put the wheels back on, torque, make sure brake fluid is at the MAX level and put away brake bleeder that is still dry and you don't have to clean or pour out and unused brake fluid.

Make sense now?
I was always under the impression to not leave the bleeder dry.
I get what you mean, but you will constantly have to open and top up while you bleed...

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This is good but you leave a lot of the old fluid in there. I do the same but right after your step 2, I take out most the fluid in the reservoir with a turkey baster and pour fresh fluid into the reservoir. Then I continue on.
Sounds like a good idea... I will try this later on in the week.
I have an oil extractor so I will just take out the reservoir fluid first and then slowly bleed from the passenger rear first then driver rear and passenger front, then driver front? Correct right?
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I was always under the impression to not leave the bleeder dry.
I get what you mean, but you will constantly have to open and top up while you bleed...



Sounds like a good idea... I will try this later on in the week.
I have an oil extractor so I will just take out the reservoir fluid first and then slowly bleed from the passenger rear first then driver rear and passenger front, then driver front? Correct right?
Not necessarily.......if you're just doing a quick bleed from switching pads, then this method works great. In fact, I just did this on Friday and I only had to put more fluid in once, which took about 2 minutes.
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Not necessarily.......if you're just doing a quick bleed from switching pads, then this method works great. In fact, I just did this on Friday and I only had to put more fluid in once, which took about 2 minutes.
Tried to do it last week, my bleeder valve BROKE.
The shop where I had my brakes bled tighten'd them too tight!
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Tried to do it last week, my bleeder valve BROKE.
The shop where I had my brakes bled tighten'd them too tight!
Aw man, that stinks.....yeah, you just need about an 1/8-1/4 turn to get the bleeder valved tightened....just snug
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+1 on the Motive unit. Works great and it is fairly simple to use.
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