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      09-28-2012, 04:04 PM   #1
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I am replacing the rear pads soon and have narrowed my choice down to Porterfield R4S or Akebono Euro Ceramic. My car is a daily driver [no track work - but I do drive way too fast] and I am looking for performance similar to OEM. TIA for the input!
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I am very happy with my porterfield r4s pads, they bike well at normal temps and very aggressively as they heat up.

Pair with stainless lines and high temp fluid for a nice and affordable braking upgrade.
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      09-29-2012, 02:24 AM   #3
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If you DD your car and don't want your wheels to blacken over a few days worth of driving, I do recommend the Akebono Euros. I have them on after a switch from OEM and dust is practically gone. Its a HUGE difference. Brake feel however is not recommended to you if you want the exact feel of OEM. These pads have nowhere near the initial bite that OEM does. They definitely do stop but its a more linear increase in stopping ability. Its no longer a sudden jolt the second you apply a touch of pressure the the brake pedal which some prefer, some may not.
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I have Akebono Ceramic and they are quite good. I have made a full report on them earlier, you can probably find it with the search function here. Long story short, pedal feel is a little longer, they feel a little wooden when cold (last for 2 brakes applications on cold mornings, doesn't come back after that), but are very good otherwise. Oh, and of course, no dust -at all. I've not tried to Porter, so comparison point is OEM pads.
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I have the Akebono and will never buy them again. They fit loose and I get an annoying clicking sound whenever I brake. Was going to buy the Porterfields next but realized they don't have clips so they might do the same thing. I'm going back to OEM.
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I have the Akebono and will never buy them again. They fit loose and I get an annoying clicking sound whenever I brake. Was going to buy the Porterfields next but realized they don't have clips so they might do the same thing. I'm going back to OEM.
What clips do you mean? The Porterfields have metal clips that fit into the piston, and I don't have any abnormal noise with them.
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What clips do you mean? The Porterfields have metal clips that fit into the piston, and I don't have any abnormal noise with them.
After re-reading the post I think they are talking about the race pads. Maybe I'll give them a try. And I know the Akebonos have clips but they fit loose. I've read this before and was told by my mechanic as well. It's embarrassing.

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What clips do you mean? The Porterfields have metal clips that fit into the piston, and I don't have any abnormal noise with them.
After re-reading the post I think they are talking about the race pads. Maybe I'll give them a try. And I know the Akebonos have clips but they fit loose. I've read this before and was told by my mechanic as well. It's embarrassing.

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I actually have Akebono Euros not any race version just the regular street pads. I had no fitment issues. When I installed them, I installed them with anti-squeal and I get absolutely no sound out of my brakes. The clips which go into the piston fit perfectly you just have to apply some pressure to fit them in, if they come too loose, you can fan out the springs a bit to spread them out and then install them and that should fix any issue with them.
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I have the akebonos and they are SILENT no noises whatsoever.
I can go a month without any brake dust as long as I don't drive in the rain the wheels like freshly washed.
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I put Porterfield R4S on the rears, and they dust WAY less than the OEM pads I have on the front (long story on why I am running different rears)
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After re-reading the post I think they are talking about the race pads. Maybe I'll give them a try. And I know the Akebonos have clips but they fit loose. I've read this before and was told by my mechanic as well. It's embarrassing.

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I installed them myself, and the clips where present and far from feeling loose. I have experienced no noise of any type.
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Porterfield R4S are old compound design. I blasted through a brand new pair of these in just 2 track days. They also begin to gas out fairly earlier compared to a true track compound like Performance Friction 918.

My recommendation: The R4S are good only if you do not intend to go on the track.

EDIT: The R4S pads do come in with retaining clips. They will not clunk and rattle unlike the Performance Friction 918.
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I am running the cool carbon pads, just put them on Saturday .. but they have been great so far. They have the little grooves to plug in the brake sensor.
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Also give Hawk HPS consideration. Much less dust than stock, but without the decreased bite that you'll get with the Akebonos. I had low dust pads for about 6 months and while I loved the near dustless characteristics, I hated the decreased braking performance- especially on very cold days. I am much happier with the HPS, even though they dust a little bit more (still a lot less than stock though).

The HPS had the clips that fit into the caliper piston also.
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