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      08-31-2013, 04:33 PM   #1
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Anyone seen this? BMS hits 481whp stock turbos

Yup, saw this thread on another forum. Terry got 481rw out of stock turbos...pretty insane.

Here's the dyno and log. Not sure how long turbos would last...lol but for a drag tune or something not used daily could be pretty beastly.
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      08-31-2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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Here are other pictures for some reason only one worked...
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It's very impressive and also uses a smoothing value of 5.
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Yup. Seen this. That is pretty impressive. From what I read, it's not a daily driver map though unless I'm mistaken?
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Yup. Seen this. That is pretty impressive. From what I read, it's not a daily driver map though unless I'm mistaken?
Neither is Shiv's...good luck with either tune lasting very long. Honestly though, you can see Terry did several pulls all with similar results. I believe he will be taking the car to the track soon.
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It's a daily driver map because Shiv says so lol. Anything tuned for stock turbos can be daily driver if you go light on the throttle.
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It's a daily driver map because Shiv says so lol. Anything tuned for stock turbos can be daily driver if you go light on the throttle.
Lol well put, you got me.
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Congratulations to Terry for getting the record back!


Edit: Thanks for editing my post mods and removing what I said!

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It's too bad these world record cars won't get dyno'ed back to back on the same dyno under the same conditions. Hard to say which is truly the most powerful otherwise.
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saw this and very cool results indeed.
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It's too bad these world record cars won't get dyno'ed back to back on the same dyno under the same conditions. Hard to say which is truly the most powerful otherwise.
It doesn't help that Terry lives in socal and Shiv lives in the Bay Area. We've been trying to get a BMS vs. Vishnu shootout for years now since the JB2 vs Procede V1 days, never happened.
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It's very impressive and also uses a smoothing value of 5.
To be fair, Shiv posted Smoothing-5 dyno graphs as well, difference was 1 peak whp. Nothing really to be nitpicky over.
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Can't wait to see it rip at Shifts3ctor
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It doesn't help that Terry lives in socal and Shiv lives in the Bay Area. We've been trying to get a BMS vs. Vishnu shootout for years now since the JB2 vs Procede V1 days, never happened.
It happened in late 2008 and in SoCal... Shiv brought his yellow lambo, he tuned my car and a few others... Terry had tuned another customers car...

Terry's customer car had the most whp by 3 or 4 hp. But it was said that the slight advantage was probably due to the Jb car having a manual trans vs the other being auto.

Either way it was fun.


Edit: Only Shiv showed up to the dyno day, Terry didnt, due to being busy or not liking/caring for dyno days
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Hopefully they will both be at Shift Sector and maybe a stock turbos race could be good.
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Hopefully they will both be at Shift Sector and maybe a stock turbos race could be good.
It would be great to see how this map performs. Guys, let's put some pressure on Terry to show up with this 335 It would be interesting to see how it runs against other cars.
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Pressure on Terry? Hes at all the events and he is already signed up.
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Pressure on Terry? Hes at all the events and he is already signed up.
So he will be running this 335 with this tune?
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On the 481rw stock turbo it's pretty impressive. Keep in mind this car has a CPE intercooler while the previous 468rw record holder was using the factory intercooler. This car also has a lighter flywheel and rims which may be boosting the power output a few. I know when it comes to setting these "records" every little detail helps.

I read in my other thread before it was deleted that people were suggesting it was completely unstreetable tuning. And the answer to that is maybe it is. BMS is conducting road testing now with it. What they want to determine is if these recent ~20rw gains they made primarily with extra timing and leaner air/fuel ratios are translating in to *real world* performance. We all know dynojets are low load and as a result often offer inflated dyno numbers. BMS has some good performance metrics on the same car running 450whp and 460whp
tuning and will compare them to the 480whp tuning as soon as the weather matches up.

As far as dyno queens go they have participated in every single west
coast runway event including the SS events and others not to mention
at least 100 trips to the 1/4 mile track there so anyone suggesting they don't bring the cars out to race probably just hasn't been to the events. They hold the record for quickest 1/4 mile from a stock turbo N54 @ 11.2, highest MPH @ 125mph, stock turbo 60-130 8.3s, etc. Technically they still hold the record for the fastest N54 ever to run down the 1/4 mile at 132mph although everyone knows that is just a formality now given the higher HP cars running around.

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