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      09-19-2012, 01:01 PM   #23
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Very similar thing happened to me... It was simply because I own a 328xi (E92) however, I do have premium, cold weather, sports, and iDrive along with M-Tech front,rear, and side skirts and a few other mods. Most people actually mistake it for a 335 because of the quad exhaust... Some people are just jealous and ignorant. Let them be it your car! Nice car by the way and by no means "base"
Exactly its pretty much identical to my friends 335 minus ( big minus ) the motor.

I have no complaints love this car, Didnt want to worry about 2 turbo cars my other car is a turbo.
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      09-19-2012, 01:10 PM   #24
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isn't base model 323i? and 328i is considered mid?

but your not base model.
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maybe he is pointing to the fact he has navigation and leather?...

Though it is true that 328s are the base 3 series, and sedans are much cheaper than coupes price wise, maybe that's what he meant
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In the model line up a 328 is the base 328 model.
A car with the option you have is not a base car.

he is driving a FORD, "Found On Road Dead", "Fix On Repair Daily"......
But really, a Lincoln and he's ragging on a BMW??? Please....
Tell him to go buy a car that was engineered to be driven and not a lounge chair on wheels...
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In the model line up a 328 is the base 328 model.
A car with the option you have is not a base car.

he is driving a FORD, "Found On Road Dead", "Fix On Repair Daily"......
But really, a Lincoln and he's ragging on a BMW??? Please....
Tell him to go buy a car that was engineered to be driven and not a lounge chair on wheels...
I know, like I said I usually would never make this post but after a few drinks and thinkin about the idiot at work I figured what the hell lets see what the forum thinks lol.

Thanks guys, I think you made it more obvious then I already thought.
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Huh? Pretty sure his 2008 328i is valued as much less than the MKS.

But yeah OP, that's far from "base". The "base" 328i would have zero options.

The "base model" 3er was only the 328 in the US if I'm not mistaken (which I may be). I know all the other countries I know of had smaller engine options and a more basic interior (cloth).

Take your pick: http://www.offleaseonly.com/used-lincoln-mks.htm all the way from $14.9k for an 09' to $22.9k for a 11'.

Where I got my m-sport 335 there was a 09' with more miles than mine -- think that was around 38k miles that was listed for $26.x and no nav just sport and prem.
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Take your pick: http://www.offleaseonly.com/used-lincoln-mks.htm all the way from $14.9k for an 09' to $22.9k for a 11'.

Where I got my m-sport 335 there was a 09' with more miles than mine -- think that was around 38k miles that was listed for $26.x and no nav just sport and prem.
None of those which you listed are the Ecoboost model. Difference in MSRP between Ecoboost and the NA FWD ones you showed is about $7k so I expect there to be a few $k difference between the models you listed and the Ecoboost model. The difference is the equivalent of 328-->335 if I'm not mistaken.

Loaded '08 335s have trouble leaving the lots around here at anything more than $22k, so I'd imagine a half-optioned '08 328 would fetch a couple $k less.

Regardless, the point was that you can't in fact get two Ecoboost MKSes for the price of the OP's car. In fact, the MKS is going to be worth more. Even if it is a just a Taurus with some fancy-schmancy trim.
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Having a 328 doesn't make it a base model. Your car is pretty far from base especially with it being equipped with the sport package.
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None of those which you listed are the Ecoboost model. Difference in MSRP between Ecoboost and the NA FWD ones you showed is about $7k so I expect there to be a few $k difference between the models you listed and the Ecoboost model. The difference is the equivalent of 328-->335 if I'm not mistaken.

Loaded '08 335s have trouble leaving the lots around here at anything more than $22k, so I'd imagine a half-optioned '08 328 would fetch a couple $k less.

Regardless, the point was that you can't in fact get two Ecoboost MKSes for the price of the OP's car. In fact, the MKS is going to be worth more. Even if it is a just a Taurus with some fancy-schmancy trim.
wat.
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wat.
MKS can be:

3.7L NA FWD
3.7L NA AWD
3.5L Ecoboost AWD

Different trim levels and priced very differently from the factory. Just like there are different flavors of the 3er, there are different flavors of the MKS.... So you have to take into account which trim level the guy has, because picking the wrong trim level is like confusing a 328 for 335, etc...

Or were you "wat"ing something else?

EDIT: I should also add my comment about the 335 leaving the lots at $22k fully loaded around here might need a bit of clarification. I'm specifically talking about a 2008 E90 with everything except Comfort Access, 74k miles (been watching a specific one to see what it sells for). So I should have probably said "high mileage" 335, but even if mileage was lower, they still don't go for much around here. The coupes seem to do better.

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      09-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #33
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I think that 'base model' is like 'sports car' - the definition rests with the person using the phrase.

Some consider a 3-series to be a sports car, but ask someone with a Caymen/Boxter/911/Ferrari/Lambo/etc, and the 3-series is an econo-box sedan - not a sports car.

Ask someone with a Kenworth, an F150 or a Taurus, and yes, the 3-series is a sports car.

The real question is: does it matter? Are you really going to get rid of your car if you find out that after all this time you've been driving a "base model"?

Come on man, grow a set, and appreciate what you've got. What someone else has is irrelevant (whether it's nicer than your car or not).
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Tell him to stick it. You have sport package, real leather, 6mt plus more, it's a nice ride and clearly not "base". Tell him when he's paying for it than he's entitled to have an opinion. There will always be haters, just enjoy your ride.
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Tell him to stick it. You have sport package, real leather, 6mt plus more, it's a nice ride and clearly not "base". Tell him when he's paying for it than he's entitled to have an opinion. There will always be haters, just enjoy your ride.
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Far from base.

He's a douche, plain and simple. Stop worrying about what others think about YOUR car.
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"Base" cars are faster because they have less weight. I.e., no heavy motors in the seats, no heavy "TI-3x" computer driving the iDrive, no heavy CA sensors all about the vehicle, no other options that just add weight. That's one nice advantage. ;D

PS - I'd never see that car as base. It looks fancy.
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MKS can be:

3.7L NA FWD
3.7L NA AWD
3.5L Ecoboost AWD

Different trim levels and priced very differently from the factory. Just like there are different flavors of the 3er, there are different flavors of the MKS.... So you have to take into account which trim level the guy has, because picking the wrong trim level is like confusing a 328 for 335, etc...

Or were you "wat"ing something else?

EDIT: I should also add my comment about the 335 leaving the lots at $22k fully loaded around here might need a bit of clarification. I'm specifically talking about a 2008 E90 with everything except Comfort Access, 74k miles (been watching a specific one to see what it sells for). So I should have probably said "high mileage" 335, but even if mileage was lower, they still don't go for much around here. The coupes seem to do better.
My buddy has an Ecoboost AWD w/Nav.
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I would have just laughed in his face!

When I first got my BMW, a co worker said to me" If I were to buy a BMW, it would have to be a 5 series or 7 series, the interior looks much nicer" She drove a Merc CLK 350. Then proceeded to tell me Mercedes has better looking interior. I just laughed. Some people are ignorant.
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I would have just laughed in his face!

When I first got my BMW, a co worker said to me" If I were to buy a BMW, it would have to be a 5 series or 7 series, the interior looks much nicer" She drove a Merc CLK 350. Then proceeded to tell me Mercedes has better looking interior. I just laughed. Some people are ignorant.


I get told I have a base 3 series sometimes. Don't worry about it, ignorance at it's best
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I get told I have a base 3 series sometimes. Don't worry about it, ignorance at it's best
Thanks guys! Didnt think so, When I had a loaner I learned what base was. Non sport, non real leather, auto etc.
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I bought a base model 335i, essentially. No iDrive, auto, non-sport. All it had above base was the premium package, which included leather power seats with lumbar support, folding, heated auto-dimming mirrors, BMW Assist, and floor mats.

I then added the Performance Sports Suspension and the Stage 2 PPK.
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I bought a base model 335i, essentially. No iDrive, auto, non-sport. All it had above base was the premium package, which included leather power seats with lumbar support, folding, heated auto-dimming mirrors, BMW Assist, and floor mats.

I then added the Performance Sports Suspension and the Stage 2 PPK.
Add sport seats asap and your set, They are night and day!
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I would love to add a driver's sport seat at some point. Better wheels and paddle shifters too.
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A 328 optioned like yours is a true drivers car. An mks is what I would buy my mom to go to bingo.

But she wouldnt drive a ford. She got a Camry.
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