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      09-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #23
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Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?
german cars always underrated... asian overrated. american bah who knows.

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Yet another thread with a BMW driver having an idea fix about evil Kias trying to race him... The previous one, if memory serves, was a guy stalked by an army of red Hyundai Genesis.
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Yet another thread with a BMW driver having an idea fix about evil Kias trying to race him... The previous one, if memory serves, was a guy stalked by an army of red Hyundai Genesis.
see... now thats just wrong !

they wern't red... they were chardonnay
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Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?
I know the Optima turbo is torque limited up until 3rd gear. It really puts out about 200hp in 1st & 2nd. The trannys are designed for efficency too, sport isn't a factor.

274hp or w/e is really just a marketing ploy. The buyers won't know the difference, they just see the number & my 328i's tail lights.
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      09-19-2012, 02:22 PM   #27
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Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?
They are geared for MPG
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Why is it that Hyundais and Kias seem to underperform compared to their horsepower specs? For example, Car and Driver tested a turbocharged Optima and only got it to trap 96 mph in the quarter. A 335i, with only 26 more horsepower, 31 lb/ft of torque, and similar weight traps almost 10 mph faster. Are they overrating their engines or is there some inefficiency somewhere?
Because we are way under-rated. Probably have more like 330hp at the crank. Also, power delivery comes into play. We have full torque by 1400rpm
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So far I've only been challenged by a Ford Cobra (which smoked me) and a 350z which I didn't bother....
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I know the Optima turbo is torque limited up until 3rd gear. It really puts out about 200hp in 1st & 2nd. The trannys are designed for efficency too, sport isn't a factor.
That could be a reasonable, but unfortunate, explanation, but I guess you can only do so much with FWD.
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They are geared for MPG
The Optima turbo doesn't seem to be particularly high geared, it tops out at 34, 60, 92, and 122 mph in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears respectively.
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lol he said displacement of a soda haha good stuff. They do look pretty cools tho, kia and hyundai are like the samsung of cars.
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The Kia Optima is actually a really nice car. Not for me, but still did a good job with the design.
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lol he said displacement of a soda haha good stuff. They do look pretty cools tho, kia and hyundai are like the samsung of cars.
Yes I did lol. For some reason I don't respect any sport car with less than 2 liters of displacement. I'm sure this statement will spark some debate .
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Yes I did lol. For some reason I don't respect any sport car with less than 2 liters of displacement. I'm sure this statement will spark some debate .
Lotus Elise. Mazda Miata. S2000....the actual sports cars.
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I guess he respects the mazda mx3 2.5 v6 haha
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Because they have a turbo, and when people see turbo, they think that means fast. Sorry Mr. Optima, but you lose to a 328, and 335 hands down.
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I guess he respects the mazda mx3 2.5 v6 haha


the Mx3 had a 1.8-liter V6
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I had something similar... hyundai genesis wanted to race and there was no one on the road really so i was like meh lemme show this guy who's boss.... little did i know this mofo pops outa no where....


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Had some kid in a Mustang try to race me last night. I accelerated to get around a slow driver in front of me and then in my rearview mirror see these lights coming and I thought well its either a cop or someone thinks I wanna race. Pull up to a light look to my left and its a mustang. Light turns green, he guns it and when I see the back of his car I realize its a damn 6 cylinder. I almost raced him at that point....lol He had aftermarket wheels and a body kit and from the side it looked like a Cobra. lol
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youre right!... but i guess he dont repect this 2.2 lol

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