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      09-20-2012, 01:13 PM   #23
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You may need some maintenance - intake cleaning, plugs, check air filters. Reset adaptations and try again. I am running the 5-23 aggressive Stage 1 map on 93 octane with PWM meth, and it's very fast everywhere throughout the rev range. The intake carbon buildup was severe in my car after 47k miles, so you definitely want to make sure yours is clean.

You are stuck with 91 octane, so you may have to upload the Stage 0 5-23 aggressive map. Only run Map 2 with race gas! If you run Map 2 without enough octane or without meth, the engine will probably run like crap or have to pull timing so much that it will be worse than running the proper map.
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FOLLOW THIS! There is no latest maps with AutoTune so DO NOT RUN MAP 2. I did that and the car felt like crap. I reset everything and ran map 1 and everything is super aggressive!
Please elaborate more .. when I got my Procede a 2 month ago the first thing I did was put it on map 2 shouldn't I not of done that. Cause to be honest I didn't even try map 1 .
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      09-20-2012, 01:14 PM   #24
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Add the following variables to your logged channels in the Channel setup in the procede software:

Throttle
Inlet Air Temp
Can act Ign Adv
Can Fuel trims 1&2
Can AFR banks 1&2
(boost is automatically logged)

Then log a pull from the top of 2nd gear rd gear to bottom of 4th gear. We are interested in the logs as they relate to 3rd gear. Take a screen shot and post it here.
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      09-20-2012, 01:26 PM   #25
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I wanna thank everyone so being helpful . Within the last couple hours I learned quite a bit . So when I download the 5-23 aggressive maps what stage should I use and what map . I got fmic, Afe dci, cp/ tial bov and I run 93 octane for those who wanna know .
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Ok my world just went into a spin lol when I upload the 12-17 maps they didn't have stage 0 or 1 or 2 it just had it for a 6at and 6at upgraded turbos so since I didn't have upgraded turbos I went with 6at . If some one wouldn't mind could they send me a link to the 5-23 maps and firmware . As for plugs filter iv changed those and i oiled the filter about a month ago. The carbon cleaning in scheduled with in the next couple weeks i have 72k on the it now . Thanks for all the great info guys keep it coming . So should I load those maps first then do logs ?
The newest 9-10 maps will have selection folders for auto or manual transmission. Then inside those folders are individual tune files numbered Stage 0-3. Stage 0 is for 91 octane or some cars that just don't handle as much boost as most. Stage 1 is for 93 octane and minimal mods. Stage 2 would work with a FMIC and intake. Stage 3 would need FMIC, intake, and DPs with 93 octane. The reason for the manual selection is that autotuning is not active on any of these aggressive maps.

If you don't want to fool with it, run the 7-29 autotuning map for your transmission.

Make sure you have uploaded the proper firmware (v111). Also, unzipping the contents leads to failure on my Vista laptop due to a file name with a colon in it. Anytime I unzip those files, I choose SKIP, not CANCEL.
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I wanna thank everyone so being helpful . Within the last couple hours I learned quite a bit . So when I download the 5-23 aggressive maps what stage should I use and what map . I got fmic, Afe dci, cp/ tial bov and I run 93 octane for those who wanna know .
9-10 aggressive, try Stage 2 first.

http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/dow...%20%209_10.zip
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      09-20-2012, 01:36 PM   #28
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9-10 aggressive, try Stage 2 first.

http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/dow...%20%209_10.zip
I don't wanna do the e85 just yet.
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There are two versions - one with E85 mixing, the other without. I must have posted the wrong one, sorry:

http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/dow...%20%209_10.zip
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There are two versions - one with E85 mixing, the other without. I must have posted the wrong one, sorry:

http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/dow...%20%209_10.zip
Ok ill Try these out . So what I'm understanding is none of those stages or maps have autotuning correct . And I should only use map 1.
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Yes, Map 0 is stock - Procede in bypass mode. Map 1 is the performance tune. Map 2 is more performance tune, requires methanol or race gas. If you choose to do meth (I do), Map 4 is the meth map with failsafes. It runs Map 2 when meth is flowing to target, and if not, drops back to Map 1 seamlessly. It also doesn't run meth until the oil temp is over about 175F.

Install a meth kit on your car and see how it feels compared to the WS6 then!
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I wanna thank everyone so being helpful . Within the last couple hours I learned quite a bit . So when I download the 5-23 aggressive maps what stage should I use and what map . I got fmic, Afe dci, cp/ tial bov and I run 93 octane for those who wanna know .
You will want Stage 2, latest maps, and select your transmission from the folder. If you had downpipes you could run stage 3. You will be using map 1 on the latest maps too.
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In short: latest maps -> select transmission -> stage 2 -> map 1.

When you download the latest maps zip file, it contains the instructions to reset the ECU and reset the Procede. Follow the README.
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Pic 1 of user settings when the procede was connceted after the 3rd run witch i didnt touch do i need to adjust something ? . last Pic is of the last log run 3 the 2nd pic is of the first log run1.

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Add the following variables to your logged channels in the Channel setup in the procede software:

Throttle
Inlet Air Temp
Can act Ign Adv
Can Fuel trims 1&2
Can AFR banks 1&2
(boost is automatically logged)

Then log a pull from the top of 2nd gear rd gear to bottom of 4th gear. We are interested in the logs as they relate to 3rd gear. Take a screen shot and post it here.
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Just came back form a drive from the hwy and did some pulls 60+mph and i can say it not bad, the top end feels alot better than the 12-17 maps i was runnning . I guess my adaptaions are still tuning in so i guess it will get better ? But it feels good. Better than before.
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Thats good news. In the future, you'll want to recalibrate your logging settings similar the below image.



Once you have done this, click on the Can Actual Ign Section then press "P" on your keyboard. A dialog will open. Click on the "auto scale" button. This will rescale the Y-axis.

Also, if you can zoom in on the log, it will be easier for people to read. You've got 30 seconds of logs which makes the information hard to read. You can zoom by clicking on the section of time you want to be the focal point of your zoom, then press the magnify icon on the toolbar.

Once you are sure everything is running smooth and there are no hardware issues with your car, you can start inching your start boost up by .5 psi in the user variable section. Be sure to log each incremental change to ensure that the values are safe for your cars mods and gas octane.
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