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      05-20-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
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2011 BMW 328i SULEV Coupe

Quick question guys, I have been trying to find the answer on forums and google, but it seems I am going no where.


I read this statement from somewhere on google

"All 2010 328i models have fuel pumps that can be changed without replacing the entire tank."

Does this mean that, 2010/2011 models, you do not have to worry about that ridiculous $6000+ fuel tank replacement anymore? Are the cost of repairs if something goes wrong around the same for the n51 sulev vs n52 ulev now?

This is important as, I am still waiting for the BMW Canada to confirm if the extended sulev warranty does transfer over, but I highly doubt it.


Let me know guys,

Thank you for your time.
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      05-20-2012, 01:36 PM   #2
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I read your last thread on this. I don't know why you're so concerned with the gas tank needing to be replaced. I can't remember one story of a gas tank needing replacement on E9X. Actually, I never heard of it period. The 328 is a very reliable car. Don't worry about it man. Buy it and enjoy it.
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I read your last thread on this. I don't know why you're so concerned with the gas tank needing to be replaced. I can't remember one story of a gas tank needing replacement on E9X. Actually, I never heard of it period. The 328 is a very reliable car. Don't worry about it man. Buy it and enjoy it.
I understand, but I am thinking of owning this vehicle for 4 years and resell it without any concerns for the next driver.

"It looks like the newer version of the SULEV engine (N51) has a plastic fuel tank and a servicable fuel pumps available for it on the parts listings. The prices for these seem to be within reason. Therefore it seems like they might have improved the design of the fuel supply on the SULEV engine (as it can now be maintained for a reasonable price if the pump goes or filter clogs)."

Can anyone confirm this? I am still waiting for BMW NA to respond, but if any of you guys can answer, it would be nice and one less thing to worry about.

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Taking every precaution?
Have you taken steps to mitigate the inevitable carbon build up in your engine?
What about the RFTs, you know they are very expensive to replace.
There are so many things that can go wrong within the life span of the car. Make sure you take precautions to head those off.
But really, that fuel tank obsession is not healthy. Seek help, and I don't mean from your SA or BMWNA.
And why would BMWNA respond to your inquiry which would confirm a flaw in their design?

But then again, just because you are paranoid does not mean your car is not going to break down.
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Wow and with that attitude don't expect any help from these forums. He might of put it a little harsh, but it's true. You're worrying about a fuel tank. How about the N52 ticking issue that might end up needing a whole cylinder head replacement? That's about $6,000. Take problems as they come. Why worry about something so rare? If we're going down that road I guess your car can explode at any second with a fuel related incident. Are you not going to drive?
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Wow and with that attitude don't expect any help from these forums. He might of put it a little harsh, but it's true. You're worrying about a fuel tank. How about the N52 ticking issue that might end up needing a whole cylinder head replacement? That's about $6,000. Take problems as they come. Why worry about something so rare? If we're going down that road I guess your car can explode at any second with a fuel related incident. Are you not going to drive?
Hello,

I was just a bit annoyed with his comments.My apologies.

You are correct, I probably will not have any issues during my 4 years. I am just concerned the next driver will not like the fact it is sulev engine with no emission warranty. That is all. Maybe I am overreacting just like you said.

gah... alright please ignore my rudeness above, I was frustrated and wanted confirmation.

Thanks though for your input.
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SULEV = 150K MILE WARRANTY, SOMETHING DEALERS DONT TELL YOU!

Gas tank isa emission component so it is covered in all SULEV vehicles till 150k

In the State of California, manufacturers of SULEVs can be given a partial credit for producing a Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) and so a vehicle of this type can be administratively designated as a Partial Zero-Emission Vehicle (PZEV). In order to qualify as a PZEV, a vehicle must meet the SULEV standard and, in addition, have zero evaporative emissions from its fuel system plus an extended (15-year/150,000-mile (241,000 km)) warranty on its emission-control components.

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That's correct! It's 150k miles on everything emission related including the gas tank.
All sulev cars including e46 models have sealed tank with fuel pump and for pump too be replaced, the whole thing needs to be replaced.
It not the BMW design but rather what makes car SULEV or PZEV.
It is a requirement!
Second, I was sceptical of buying sulev car but what sold it was the fact that all sulev cars in California has 150k warranty for emissions.
also, before i made the purchase, i did visit parts counter at the dealership and asked about gas tank price and it was about $1000 plus labor, not $6000!
And recently I changed the oil and I looked in the back, gas tank is very easy replacement anyway!
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SULEV = 150K MILE WARRANTY, SOMETHING DEALERS DONT TELL YOU!

Gas tank isa emission component so it is covered in all SULEV vehicles till 150k

In the State of California, manufacturers of SULEVs can be given a partial credit for producing a Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) and so a vehicle of this type can be administratively designated as a Partial Zero-Emission Vehicle (PZEV). In order to qualify as a PZEV, a vehicle must meet the SULEV standard and, in addition, have zero evaporative emissions from its fuel system plus an extended (15-year/150,000-mile (241,000 km)) warranty on its emission-control components.
I wonder if my DTML Pump should have been covered by that?
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