To go H&R Race or not to go? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

jm3as · 09-25-2012, 01:34 PM

current set up:

Koni FSD7 shocks/struts
H&R Sports

This is my daily driver, however, i wish the front could drop a bit more. Being that it is my daily driver, i'm balancing between looks and comfort. i'm very very happy with the way the sports feel, curious if anyone here thinks i should go race or keep it as is. Curious how harsh the ride will get also being on konis.

Current setup and wheels.

Thanks for any input

Gjm127 · 09-25-2012, 03:13 PM

Stay right where you are. I'm with Sports too. Just got my 10mm spacers installed and can't possibly think how uncomfortable it would be if I were on Race springs.
Plus, it looks right-on perfect with this setup. The race would be too low and IMO looks Civic-ish.

jm3as · 09-25-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gjm127

Stay right where you are. I'm with Sports too. Just got my 10mm spacers installed and can't possibly think how uncomfortable it would be if I were on Race springs.
Plus, it looks right-on perfect with this setup. The race would be too low and IMO looks Civic-ish.

hmm, okay, that's what i'm thinking. i just am a bit bothered as to how the aero lip kind of scoops upward at the bottom, making the front look even higher. if i can find a good splitter lip to put under it, maybe it may even it out a bit

Gjm127 · 09-25-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jm3as

hmm, okay, that's what i'm thinking. i just am a bit bothered as to how the aero lip kind of scoops upward at the bottom, making the front look even higher. if i can find a good splitter lip to put under it, maybe it may even it out a bit

Yeah go for the splitter lip.
Don't mess with your suspension, it looks perfect the way it is

CJ421 · 09-25-2012, 03:57 PM

The Koni FSD dampers are not designed for H&R Sport springs as it is. With H&R Race you'll essentially be riding the bumpstops resulting in an unpleasant ride and the handling will suffer tremendously. I don't know of a damper that provides enough travel with H&R Race springs.

Agreed that the ride height you have now ... enjoy it. The car looks really good as-is but that's my opinion.

jm3as · 09-25-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ421

The Koni FSD dampers are not designed for H&R Sport springs as it is. With H&R Race you'll essentially be riding the bumpstops resulting in an unpleasant ride and the handling will suffer tremendously. I don't know of a damper that provides enough travel with H&R Race springs.

Agreed that the ride height you have now ... enjoy it. The car looks really good as-is but that's my opinion.

yea everyone was saying koni yellows, but i grabbed a great deal on both. and the ride and handling is very smooth and very similiar to my oem sport suspension. yea looks like i may just leave the susp as it is. i'm really in between doing a lip and not doing one. i feel the front end just sits unusually high, and maybe a lip will help bring the front body down a bit.

jm3as · 09-25-2012, 04:18 PM

thoughts on a lip like this?

jm3as · 09-25-2012, 04:45 PM

another angle.

thoughts?

CJ421 · 09-25-2012, 07:04 PM

It will look more aggressive but you're gonna scrape. Almost guaranteed even if you're careful.

M-tech front bumper on the other hand ...

Game · 09-26-2012, 12:11 AM

I personally like your height, I think it matches your new wheels. A little more conservative, but just right. But I mean lower does usually look better (and who am I to talk being really low), so if your roads/area allows for it, I'd do it. Sorry for the flip flopping answer.

As for the lip, I liked the first shot but I wasn't a fan of the second pic. Seems like it sticks out a little too much up front.

arrjaaayy24 · 09-27-2012, 02:04 AM

whats the drop you are on with those h&r sports?

AWD Addict · 09-27-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gjm127

Stay right where you are. I'm with Sports too. Just got my 10mm spacers installed and can't possibly think how uncomfortable it would be if I were on Race springs.
Plus, it looks right-on perfect with this setup. The race would be too low and IMO looks Civic-ish.

Car looks great. Don't change a thing. Plus, the ride will feel like your wheels are welded to the frame.

Don't turn your car into a honda.

Also, are you sure you're riding on FSDs? I know that's kind of a silly question, but those are for stock height springs. not lowering springs. You're going to be riding outside of the damper's optimal valving zones, which is going to screw up the handling.

I have a friend with an e92 on yellows and H&R sports, and his car is lower than yours. The rear is tucked, and the front is almost tucked. It looks slammed. I'm not a fan. Looks like a civic with cut springs, not an ultimate driving machine.

jm3as · 09-27-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by arrjaaayy24

whats the drop you are on with those h&r sports?

it took me down about 3/4-1" all around. but thats from an already low oem sports drop from the factory. i think from stock height it takes you down around 1.2"

jm3as · 09-27-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AWD Addict

Car looks great. Don't change a thing. Plus, the ride will feel like your wheels are welded to the frame.

Don't turn your car into a honda.

Also, are you sure you're riding on FSDs? I know that's kind of a silly question, but those are for stock height springs. not lowering springs. You're going to be riding outside of the damper's optimal valving zones, which is going to screw up the handling.

I have a friend with an e92 on yellows and H&R sports, and his car is lower than yours. The rear is tucked, and the front is almost tucked. It looks slammed. I'm not a fan. Looks like a civic with cut springs, not an ultimate driving machine.

hmm, so he has sports too but with yellows and its slammed? i thought the race drop makes it slammed

matteucciE92 · 09-27-2012, 10:33 AM

How do you like the FSD on the performance side? Are they a lot better the OEM sport? And why did u pick h&r over eibach

jm3as · 09-27-2012, 10:38 AM

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How do you like the FSD on the performance side? Are they a lot better the OEM sport? And why did u pick h&r over eibach

i know many don't say they dont pair nicely, but the handling and responsiveness was a big step up from my sports drop from the factory. as for the ride comfort, i would say it went from an 9 to an 8. obviously riding lower, you feel a bit more, but the cabin noise is just as quiet, and its my daily driver, i'm always with a fully loaded car/or with customers i pick up at the airport and many of them think its lowered "from the factory". its not rough or loud at all

i was looking at eibach but H&R just has a longer rep with me. my brother use to always go H&R on his old 97 integra, his gs430, and now his m3s. he's had great experiences with them, so i thought if it ain't broke dont fix it. keep the trend going

09-25-2012, 01:34 PM	#1
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09-25-2012, 03:57 PM	#5
CJ421 Colonel Drives: 2011 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 2,902 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i [4.63]	The Koni FSD dampers are not designed for H&R Sport springs as it is. With H&R Race you'll essentially be riding the bumpstops resulting in an unpleasant ride and the handling will suffer tremendously. I don't know of a damper that provides enough travel with H&R Race springs. Agreed that the ride height you have now ... enjoy it. The car looks really good as-is but that's my opinion. __________________ 2011 BMW 335i - 6MT, M Sport, Le Mans blue, Logic7

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jm3as Colonel Drives: 2007 e92 328i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Renton, Wa Posts: 2,538 iTrader: (2)	thoughts on a lip like this? __________________

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jm3as Colonel Drives: 2007 e92 328i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Renton, Wa Posts: 2,538 iTrader: (2)	another angle. thoughts? __________________

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CJ421 Colonel Drives: 2011 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: PA Posts: 2,902 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i [4.63]	It will look more aggressive but you're gonna scrape. Almost guaranteed even if you're careful. M-tech front bumper on the other hand ... __________________ 2011 BMW 335i - 6MT, M Sport, Le Mans blue, Logic7

09-25-2012, 03:13 PM	#2
Gjm127 First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW E92 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 387 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW E92 [4.83]	Stay right where you are. I'm with Sports too. Just got my 10mm spacers installed and can't possibly think how uncomfortable it would be if I were on Race springs. Plus, it looks right-on perfect with this setup. The race would be too low and IMO looks Civic-ish.

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Game Boycotting teaser threads Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lockport/Chicago, IL Posts: 3,090 iTrader: (10)	I personally like your height, I think it matches your new wheels. A little more conservative, but just right. But I mean lower does usually look better (and who am I to talk being really low), so if your roads/area allows for it, I'd do it. Sorry for the flip flopping answer. As for the lip, I liked the first shot but I wasn't a fan of the second pic. Seems like it sticks out a little too much up front. __________________ Space Gray / Saddle Brown E92 335i - APRIL 2013 Car of the Month FS: (1) 19x10 +25 VMR V710 Matte Black Writer at DecisiveSports.com

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matteucciE92 Private First Class Drives: e92 black Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: santa Rosa, ca. Posts: 143 iTrader: (1)	How do you like the FSD on the performance side? Are they a lot better the OEM sport? And why did u pick h&r over eibach __________________ 08 335i tinted windows, Painted SR., CF trunk, turner motorsport exhaust, afe dci, AA 6inch fmic, Cobb ap, m3 rep wheels

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