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      09-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #1
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Anyone driven the ring?

I'm planning a trip to Germany for next year. Wanted to drive the ring while there.

Have you rented a car specifically for the ring?

Ill have a place to stay in degendorf and Munich, as well as a 991 c4s cab to use thanks to a friend. I would line to rent a car for the ring, no need to overstep and use his car.
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      09-27-2012, 11:41 AM   #3
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Do not use a rental car from Hertz unless you never want to rent from them again. My brother and I went there a year ago and he is now banned worldwide for life from renting there.
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Do not use a rental car from Hertz unless you never want to rent from them again. My brother and I went there a year ago and he is now banned worldwide for life from renting there.
LOL may i ask why.
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      09-27-2012, 11:55 AM   #5
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Do not use a rental car from Hertz unless you never want to rent from them again. My brother and I went there a year ago and he is now banned worldwide for life from renting there.
You can't just say that. You must tell the story or be banned from E90Post. Srsly.
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      09-27-2012, 11:55 AM   #6
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They basically said we abused the car and even though the 'Ring is a public toll road, they view it as a race track. There are other websites that warn you not to use a rental car but my brother ignored them.
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^ Yes you need to read the fine print for your rental contract. Most european car rental companies have some sort of statement that either bans driving on the ring or creating a grey area that makes it not worth it to test them.

Rent a car track side. It might be more expensive, but the car will be properly insured and in good working order to go on the track. Just make sure you coordinate it in advance.

Have fun.
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I'm planning a trip to Germany for next year. Wanted to drive the ring while there.

Have you rented a car specifically for the ring?

Ill have a place to stay in degendorf and Munich, as well as a 991 c4s cab to use thanks to a friend. I would line to rent a car for the ring, no need to overstep and use his car.
No you don't want to use a rental, just take a Ring Taxi
http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/ringtaxi/taxi.php
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      09-27-2012, 12:42 PM   #9
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Been there...

Make sure you don't go on a sunday or public holiday! And check opening hours!!!

Insurance in Europe (pretty sure everywhere) does NOT cover accidents on ANY racetrack (the Ring is one!)
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If you want to ride on the Nürburgring you better hurry it may not be open very much longer!

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar132555.html
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I have been stationed here in Germany for the past 5 years and I usually head up there are 5 times a year.

Here's me in my old Evo 8:


In my Evo X:


and finally, me sliding my wife's 328i off and into the wall:



I haven't got brave enough to take my 335is or the porsche out on the track but I did do the 'Ring Taxi this summer:


It was awesome.
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You did not drive on the ring with your wife and child did you?
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      09-27-2012, 03:18 PM   #13
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You did not drive on the ring with your wife and child did you?
Look at the pic of the 328 sliding. Wife and kid are aboard.
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Look at the pic of the 328 sliding. Wife and kid are aboard.
I saw it but couldn't believe it...
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No Ring, but I did spend some time on Laguna Seca back when I was part of the Porsche Club. The Corkscrew is something that has to be experienced!
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Do not use a rental car from Hertz unless you never want to rent from them again. My brother and I went there a year ago and he is now banned worldwide for life from renting there.
How did they even know?
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That's a good question. I can only guess there is some kind of gps locator on the car.
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You did not drive on the ring with your wife and child did you?
Yes, I did drive with them on the ring. The track was empty and my daughter is a big fan from playing GT5. So I figured what the heck, just take it slow. I turned the DTC completely off and hit the track. We were having a great time, had the track to ourselves, so I pushed it harder and harder every turn.

Then I lost it (I never really drove a RWD, I had Evos since 2003) and tried to correct it like I would my car. The bimmer doesn't act like my evo at all, overcorrected and tapped the wall, right in front of a photographer. He got 4 action shots of it. Not too much damage, replaced bumper cover and taillight.

I've sold both my Evos, now the garage only has RWD cars - my wife's 07 328i, my 01 boxster s, and the 11 335is. Haven't driven the 'Ring since the wall tap, but I do plan on trying it again, this time traction control on until I get the feel...and I promised my daughter another lap.
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What about these excerpts from the touristenfahrten?

* “The 'Ring, although for all intents and purposes a race track when used for racing, still remains a public road when opened to the public and is policed as such. Anyone caught or reported as driving dangerously can be fined or banned by the authorities.”

** “Normal, non-racing, non-timed driving accidents should be covered by driver's insurance. “
*** “Drivers interested in lap times often time themselves from the first bridge after the barriers to the last gantry before the exit. In the event of an accident, the local police are known to make note of any timing devices present (stopwatches, etc.) in the police report. The driver's insurance coverage may consequently be voided, leaving the driver fully liable for damage.”
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Talking Nürburgring driven with a 320D (E90)

Drove the ring in april this year with my 2006' E90 320D , first time ever and did four laps. (163bhp, sport suspension, no mods)

Here you can find the video footage of each lap:
http://www.youtube.com/user/dbxonline/videos

Managed to get round in about 10 minutes. Weather was good and not too many cars on the track. Knowing the limits of your car is very crucial. (bought my car second hand in 2009, so have had 3 years of experience with it before I brought it to the track).

What really really helped me was to know the track beforehand, as I learned many corners, hills and distances by playing Need for Speed Shift. But nothing can prepare you for the g-forces you'll experience, especially the vertical ones!

Also Found some photographers shots on the net afterwards:

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Wil be going back with more friends and cars october 13th. Will share photos, videos and experience afterwards.
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How did they even know?
Tires. If you did a few good laps at speed the edges get scuffed/chewed up. I bought a set of tires used 1 afternoon at Mosport and my dealer said "this cars been on the track"
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What about these excerpts from the touristenfahrten?
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** “Normal, non-racing, non-timed driving accidents should be covered by driver's insurance. “
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Focus on the word "should". This is different than "will" or "shall". This statement gives visitors the false sense of security that all insurance agencies cover driving on the ring.

Don't assume your insurance will cover it. You need to go over your policy to determine coverage, as each company is different.
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