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      08-01-2007, 11:47 AM   #1
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335i turbo tuner vs 07 sti

hey guys gonna race my brothers sti in the coming weeks once he comes down to visit..

i have a 335i coupe with turbo tuner.

my brothers 07 sti has some kinds of catback i think and a cone type intake filter with a body kit /bbs rims and alot of glow in the dark gauges lol
what do you guys think... we gonna do something like a 40mph roll race.. and maybe a 0-130mph race.
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hey guys gonna race my brothers sti in the coming weeks once he comes down to visit..

i have a 335i coupe with turbo tuner.

my brothers 07 sti has some kinds of catback i think and a cone type intake filter with a body kit /bbs rims and alot of glow in the dark gauges lol
what do you guys think... we gonna do something like a 40mph roll race.. and maybe a 0-130mph race.
btw alot of great info and i just signed up ::
-On a dig hell probably get a few car lengths on you because of the AWD. After a bit though, those drive train losses will come into effect, you should gain on him and start pulling away. Stock for Stock ive raced an STi with just exhaust, on a 30 mph roll i pulled about 1-2 car lengths hitting 120-130. :rocks:. Let me know how it goes!
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hey guys gonna race my brothers sti in the coming weeks once he comes down to visit..

i have a 335i coupe with turbo tuner.

my brothers 07 sti has some kinds of catback i think and a cone type intake filter with a body kit /bbs rims and alot of glow in the dark gauges lol
what do you guys think... we gonna do something like a 40mph roll race.. and maybe a 0-130mph race.
btw alot of great info and i just signed up ::
First of all, be carefulracing on city streets!

I've raced a couple STIs on the track and I puled away from them.
You'll have a much easier time from a roll.
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The guys that are pulling away from the STI's. Do you have PROcede, Xede, TT or stock?
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You should win if he only has a catback.

One more thing...STI's are ugly.
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An almost stock STi, cakewalk.

With my old WRX it was heavily modded, a bit over 60HP over stock. I just kept with a 335 while ago when I was thinking of buying one.

Good luck keep out of trouble
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      08-01-2007, 02:04 PM   #9
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Try to add a little 110 race fuel before you go out to seal the deal. Night and day difference with my procede. I have never raced a STI but both Evo's I ran I walked pretty good.
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Yes, sneak in some higher octane gas. He'll probably do the same thing with his car and not tell you.
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thanks alot for all the replies guys, i appreciate it, great forum.
yea gonna try from a roll a few times.

my 335i coupe with the Turbo Tuner and Track package(oil cooler,temp gauge,etc.) feels really good. faster than his sti.
i know if he dumps his clutch from a dig at 6k rpm he should jump 2 cars but i dont think he will cuz he dont wanna break his tranny.as some 07 sti are having tranny and throttle hesitation issues.
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you should win considering he has an intake on a subaru which has sometimes proven to hurt performance, please tell him to seek a custom tune, the intake is more than likely doing wierd things to fueling.
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      08-01-2007, 11:00 PM   #13
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I have the TT and to parrot most of the posts here...from a roll, you will win.

And don't conclude that he will jump two lengths ahead. In my experience, the 335s torque makes for a foolproof launch.

So, do like Tiger does..play the course. Pretend he is not there and if you do do the basics right, he won't be there!
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hey guys gonna race my brothers sti in the coming weeks once he comes down to visit..

i have a 335i coupe with turbo tuner.

my brothers 07 sti has some kinds of catback i think and a cone type intake filter with a body kit /bbs rims and alot of glow in the dark gauges lol
what do you guys think... we gonna do something like a 40mph roll race.. and maybe a 0-130mph race.
btw alot of great info and i just signed up ::

I raced a guy in an 07 STi ( He claims he was running 330hp at the crank) with a Turboback exhaust, blow off valve, air intake and ECU program and I beat him pretty bad and I'm stock (I'm about to order proceed now). Also this is from a rolling start. My last car was a modified WRX Sti, and the reason for the bad beat is because WRX and WRX STi, really does not have a very good top end at all. Bottom end on the subies are very good but not better than the 335. After the middle of my third gear I started to pull away. I could not believe how bad I beat him I can't imagine what the turbo tuner or for that matter proceed will do to the subie. From a 40mph roll, you will walk him.
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because WRX and WRX STi, really does not have a very good top end at all. Bottom end on the subies are very good but not better than the 335. After the middle of my third gear I started to pull away. I could not believe how bad I beat him I can't imagine what the turbo tuner or for that matter proceed will do to the subie. From a 40mph roll, you will walk him.
Exactly. No top end, when it came to high speeds, I had no umf. All my power was low end.
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Exactly. No top end, when it came to high speeds, I had no umf. All my power was low end.

Such a shame. Legacy, was it the gearing ratio or something else that causes bad top end?
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thanks for all the replies guys.
im gonna make my turbo tuned 335i give it to him
gonna try a 40-50mph roll... and if we go from a dig probably a 1500rpm brake luanch.
next week is the place and date is set.. friday or saturday.
thanks for all the great info guys.
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I raced a guy in an 07 STi ( He claims he was running 330hp at the crank) with a Turboback exhaust, blow off valve, air intake and ECU program and I beat him pretty bad and I'm stock (I'm about to order proceed now). Also this is from a rolling start. My last car was a modified WRX Sti, and the reason for the bad beat is because WRX and WRX STi, really does not have a very good top end at all. Bottom end on the subies are very good but not better than the 335. After the middle of my third gear I started to pull away. I could not believe how bad I beat him I can't imagine what the turbo tuner or for that matter proceed will do to the subie. From a 40mph roll, you will walk him.
330hp at the crank with a turboback AND a tune? That sucks. OTS Cobb AccessPort gets you to about 350hp/380tq.
Intakes and BOVs do nothing and can actually hurt performance if not tuned for them.
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Guys, you are all missing a major point here. He said the STI has a body kit AND glowing guages. Sorry, 335i gets P0wned by STI's with those mods!
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hey guys gonna race my brothers sti in the coming weeks once he comes down to visit..

i have a 335i coupe with turbo tuner.

my brothers 07 sti has some kinds of catback i think and a cone type intake filter with a body kit /bbs rims and alot of glow in the dark gauges lol
what do you guys think... we gonna do something like a 40mph roll race.. and maybe a 0-130mph race.
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I honestly think you are going to be ahead the entire time.
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I don't think you are going to be ahead the whole time, have you ever seen a awd car launch like a raped ape? Stis have been known to go 13 flat bone stock, down to 11.7 with mearly exhaust and a mbc. If you guys are just to go quarter mile speeds it WILL be a drivers race, your brothers chioces in mods are poor at best, his money could have got him much further. Hear are a couple of links check it out.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1227797
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1311752
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