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      04-08-2015, 08:45 AM   #1
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E92 Coupe .... audio upgrade

Apologies first of all as I know this has been covered in endless threads, which has just made the decision of what audio route to go down even more difficult.

I have a 2007 E92 (Hi Fi) and looking to upgrade to something that will give me far better sound quality. I have considered all the usual plug and play options like BSW, Alpine, Gladen and although the Gladen/Mosconi is very tempting, I think I can do slightly better so have in mind the following:

1. Jehnert flatline 3 ways to replace the oem tweeters/mids/woofers
2. Helix Match PP82DSP
3. 12" JL12w3 sub, I don't have a ski hatch but intend on creating one

Overall I am looking for decent SQ across the range, I did consider for example the Focal/Earthquake route but my concern would be the loss of midbass hence the above route. I will not get a chance though to hear the Jehnerts before buying so any advice on the above would be welcome, and also out of interest how do the Jehnerts rate against for example MB Quart QM200's or Rainbow IL-C8.3's.

Has anyone also experienced the Match 82DSP.... main reason for that would be the inbuilt DSP and the Jehnert/Helix Match appears to get better reviews than the Gladen/Mosconi.

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I have the Helix P-DSP and the software is amazing, much easier to use than the mosconi software.
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I have heard nothing but good things about the Helix so I am pretty fixed on going with that, I just need some advice on the 3 ways now. Rainbows seem to the favoured route at the moment but I have no reseller near me so going to have to take a punt on peoples recommendations!
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When I was upgrading I looked at buying a 2 way component and separate underseats, so I went with Morel Hybrid Ovations + MT23 tweeters and for underseats I went with Jehnerts. They are considered one of the best in mid bass. I also tried Earthquakes but wasn't so impressed but these things are very subjective.

Have you checked out this link? This was my guide 3 + years back.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323
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Yes mate been through that and countless other threads over the past 3-4 weeks trying to figure out what the best route to go is and this forum has provided a wealth of information and got me to the position where I now am, deciding the best front end speaker options.

My preferred route was with the Jehnert flatline based on the XE200's being the preferred underseat midbass woofer, but I am not convinced the flatline 3 ways as a whole are the best option out there.

I have considered the Morels in the past but they seem to be impossible to find over here but do seem to get very good reviews, Jehnert and Helix I can source local ish but Morels I am stumped on.

How did you find the Morels?
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I bought my morels straight from the US but had family coming over so avoided import/duty altogether. They are the best speakers I've heard. So clean and crisp but it's carries a premium price wise. They're not cheap.

Have you looked at Hertz HSK? Very good speakers.

What about Rainbow Vanadiums? AutoAudio in Park Royal are well known and the only Morel distributor in the UK. But again 2 way morels from them would set you back close to 500! Try Car Audio Security but I'd say stick with something like Hertz or Rainbow or Gladen unless budget allows otherwise mate... all of the above brands produce excellent sound quality
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Good advice above.

I would say compared to gladen mids/tweets (which i currently run), morel dorech ovation are much better sounding IMO.

Can't comment on the other suggestions as i haven't used them.

Re the sub, are you planning on an infinate baffle install?
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I did consider the Hertz but was slightly put off with the 3 ways as the midbass woofer is only 6.5", Jehnert's for example are 8". My original thinking was to find a nice 3 way but I am slowly coning round to the idea that a decent woofer with a 2 way maybe a better option.

Re: sub .... I am looking for a SQ system so I was thinking about an enclosed 12" and creating a hole where the ski hatch sits as my car does not have but and i can't see its too much of a problem to create one. I only ever use about a third of the boot so space is not an issue.
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I think I am getting close to deciding on my speakers at last and considering the following:

Morel virtus 402 2 way components for the doors
Jehnert xe200 underseat woofers

Question is not having heard the morels... is the above going to give me a nice balance of highs/midrange/midbass or would the morel 2 ways be biased towards midbass and therefore too much along with the Jehnert woofers?

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I think I am getting close to deciding on my speakers at last and considering the following:

Morel virus 402 2 way components for the doors
Jehnert xe200 underseat woofers

Question is not having heard the morels... is the above going to give me a nice balance of highs/midrange/midbass or would the morel 2 ways be biased towards midbass and therefore too much along with the Jehnert woofers?
Whereabouts are u mate, could demo the morels for u if u are close by?
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I'll second Morels.
Best mids in the world.
Jenherts are not good in my books. They bottom out easily.
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Never heard the Morel Virus.

I know Morel do entry level stuff, best to avoid that. The minimum level you want is Dotech Ovation.

Give Greg@AutoAudio a call.
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Never heard the Morel Virus.

I know Morel do entry level stuff, best to avoid that. The minimum level you want is Dotech Ovation.

Give Greg@AutoAudio a call.
Sorry was using my phone that should have said Morel Virtus 402's which are the replacements for the Dotech Ovations.

rudz - I'm down in Devon mate.

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