Do NOT buy anything from driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!! - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

AndyR83 · 10-20-2012, 04:48 PM

Around the middle of August, I was contacted by E90post user driftbrick744. He offered to sell me a painted m3 rep front bumper for my E92. We negotiated back and forth on the price a bit, and arrived at $500. Per his request, I sent the money as a "gift" on paypal to avoid fees.

For the next few weeks, I contacted him asking for updates and for a tracking number. He was never able to provide one. Two of the times I spoke to him he told me he was on a business trip, and one time he said he was on a family trip. All three times he assured me he had sent the item, and would provide me with a tracking number upon getting back home from his trip.

Three weeks passed, and no bumper showed up. I did a little research, including google searching his paypal email address. I was horrified to find this thread on a Volvo forum, which spanned 10 pages and recounted tales of his scams going back several years. Realizing only then that I was up against an experienced scammer, I contacted him once again and demanded a tracking number within 48 hours. Not surprisingly, the 2 days passed and I didn't hear a word. I texted him again asking him to call me, and was told he was "at the hospital with a family emergency."

I made a post on the other forum, indicating that I had been scammed by him as well. Many users contacted me, offering their support. Clearly this got his attention, as he then called me offering to refund my money. He told me "UPS must have messed up" with the bumper delivery, so he was just going to refund my $500. Sure, that's believable, but I digress...

He told me "money is tight" and he couldn't give back the whole $500. He asked if I would let him split it into two payments... then asked if he could do three... then four. I decided four checks for $125 was better than losing my entire $500, so I told him this would be ok.

An envelope arrived in the mail a few days later containing four post-dated checks for $125. But.... they weren't signed. I contacted him again to tell him abut this and he proceeded to send me a photo of his signature on a piece of paper telling me "sign it this way."

At this point, I called the police and the bank. Since the money had been sent as a gift on paypal, I couldn't get it back through them. The police asked me to break off all communication with him, provide copies of all text messages and emails, and get in touch with the bank. The bank conducted their own investigation and determined that this constitutes fraud. They were consequently able to reverse the charge this afternoon, resulting in my $500 being returned to my account.

driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan aka Volvo940tuner has been ripping people off for years. He has walked off with thousands of dollars from many innocent victims. Don't be the next one. If you ever see him selling something (or he wants to buy something from you) run for the hills. He's a scammer, pure and simple. I attempted to contact some of the mods/admins on this website to make them aware, but none of them replied to me. All I can say is watch your back! He's a criminal, and he will rob you blind if you fall victim to one of his schemes.

BrazilianBimmer · 10-20-2012, 05:46 PM

Thank you. Do you happen to have a picture of this lying scamming bastard!?

divisionbell77 · 10-22-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyR83

At this point, I called the police and the bank. Since the money had been sent as a gift on paypal, I couldn't get it back through them. The police asked me to break off all communication with him, provide copies of all text messages and emails, and get in touch with the bank. The bank conducted their own investigation and determined that this constitutes fraud. They were consequently able to reverse the charge this afternoon, resulting in my $500 being returned to my account.

Smartest thing to do. they will get him sooner or later. Might not be your case that nabs him, but one in the future or all of them together ends up getting these tools.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyR83

He told me "money is tight" and he couldn't give back the whole $500. He asked if I would let him split it into two payments... then asked if he could do three... then four. I decided four checks for $125 was better than losing my entire $500, so I told him this would be ok.

An envelope arrived in the mail a few days later containing four post-dated checks for $125. But.... they weren't signed. I contacted him again to tell him abut this and he proceeded to send me a photo of his signature on a piece of paper telling me "sign it this way."

Bad thing to do. not sure your laws, but in Ohio if someone makes a payment on a personal debt, there is nothing legally you can do to get the rest. Just an FYI. Best thing that may have happened was him not signing them.

divisionbell77 · 10-22-2012, 02:53 PM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748554

Boom. Have someone here meet up with him.

AndyR83 · 10-23-2012, 01:29 AM

Nah, I have no interest in meeting up with him, threatening him, or harassing him. I'm not seeking vengeance, I just want to help make sure nobody else gets ripped off.

Wesley Crusher · 10-23-2012, 02:00 AM

When doing business online, always research who you are selling to/buying from.

I try to avoid doing business with members who have 0 feedback. If I see that a member has lots of good feedback, I feel much better, but I always do a quick search of the person's name/email/phone number to see if any red flags come up. Also, never use paypal gift. The extra 3% that you have to pay is worth the satisfaction of knowing that if you get ripped off, paypal can refund your money.

I'm glad to hear that the bank sided with you.

Now, let's ban this guy. This community has no room for scammers!

N55 · 10-23-2012, 09:45 PM

Thanks for the heads up. Glad you got your money back from that bastard.

JoeyBananaz18 · 10-23-2012, 10:15 PM

Wow that sucks but I'm glad it all worked out in the end.

persian54 · 10-24-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes.

Also, never use paypal gift. The extra 3% that you have to pay is worth the satisfaction of knowing that if you get ripped off, paypal can refund your money.

I have to disagree with this.

I have sent a over $3000 through a paypal gift with no issues buying something off a member on here. I've done this on a more than regular basis for items worth small amounts to some items worth quite a bit.

Then again, these are members who have had a lot of feedback (not as many as me though), thousands of posts (not as many as me though lol), and pretty well known for the most part (not as me though haha).

It's all who you're doing business with.

But yes, do not do a gift if the seller has low feedback/little to no rep.

Glad you got your money back from the bank!!

Andy, shoot me a text when you see this post. I'd text you, but it's 3AM your time lol

Wesley Crusher · 10-24-2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by persian54

I have to disagree with this.

I have sent a over $3000 through a paypal gift with no issues buying something off a member on here. I've done this on a more than regular basis for items worth small amounts to some items worth quite a bit.

Then again, these are members who have had a lot of feedback (not as many as me though), thousands of posts (not as many as me though lol), and pretty well known for the most part (not as me though haha).

It's all who you're doing business with.

But yes, do not do a gift if the seller has low feedback/little to no rep.

Glad you got your money back from the bank!

Andy, shoot me a text when you see this post. I'd text you, but it's 3AM your time lol

So you're basically agreeing with me lol. I may use PayPal gift, but only if the person is reputable.

persian54 · 10-24-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes.

So you're basically agreeing with me lol. I may use PayPal gift, but only if the person is reputable.

well you said "never"

Slow_335i · 10-24-2012, 01:38 PM

What a pos

OECMG · 10-24-2012, 08:47 PM

Amazing such scammers exist.

AndyR83 · 10-24-2012, 11:36 PM

The scary part is how extremely believable this guy is. He almost talked me into buying a carbon fiber lip to go with it, for an extra chunk of change. He knew how to talk the talk, offer up details, and really make it sound good. That's why I was willing to send the money to him as a gift. He's an expert scammer, and he really knows how to make it sound believable.

tigermack · 01-06-2013, 09:41 PM

Why is he still here?!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=159266

AndyR83 · 01-07-2013, 11:53 AM

Who knows? I reported this to a site admin and never got a reply. Guess they don't mind scammers ripping off their forum members.

DC_Oldboy · 01-09-2013, 01:06 AM

Wow he should be banned...

EYE4SPEED · 01-13-2013, 04:49 PM

PP now limits the gifts at $500 - you need to do multiple transactions for high priced items.

Gifting is a good way to avoid fees - ONLY if there is a bunch of feedback and you have talked to the person. This doesn't guarantee anything, but much higher probability of successful transaction. Not such a big deal on low priced items, but on some really expensive items this can add up to $100's of dollars in fees.

Glad the OP got his money back, but PP fees are getting silly.

Dark_Knight_335 · 05-05-2013, 01:39 PM

Sorry for your bad experience Andy

It's idiots like this that give folks like me a bad name. I have had plenty of folks gift me money for goods I provided as a personal seller on here- never a problem. I would rather pocket the money that stupid PayPal skims off for whatever- anyone who isn't a full fledged business will agree

AndyR83 · 05-05-2013, 02:33 PM

The reason these people are able to get away with it is because so many reputable sellers are out there on forums like this that consumers get used to being able to trust people. It sucks that they take advantage of that

10-20-2012, 04:48 PM	#1
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 587 iTrader: (5)	Do NOT buy anything from driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!! Around the middle of August, I was contacted by E90post user driftbrick744. He offered to sell me a painted m3 rep front bumper for my E92. We negotiated back and forth on the price a bit, and arrived at $500. Per his request, I sent the money as a "gift" on paypal to avoid fees. For the next few weeks, I contacted him asking for updates and for a tracking number. He was never able to provide one. Two of the times I spoke to him he told me he was on a business trip, and one time he said he was on a family trip. All three times he assured me he had sent the item, and would provide me with a tracking number upon getting back home from his trip. Three weeks passed, and no bumper showed up. I did a little research, including google searching his paypal email address. I was horrified to find this thread on a Volvo forum, which spanned 10 pages and recounted tales of his scams going back several years. Realizing only then that I was up against an experienced scammer, I contacted him once again and demanded a tracking number within 48 hours. Not surprisingly, the 2 days passed and I didn't hear a word. I texted him again asking him to call me, and was told he was "at the hospital with a family emergency." I made a post on the other forum, indicating that I had been scammed by him as well. Many users contacted me, offering their support. Clearly this got his attention, as he then called me offering to refund my money. He told me "UPS must have messed up" with the bumper delivery, so he was just going to refund my $500. Sure, that's believable, but I digress... He told me "money is tight" and he couldn't give back the whole $500. He asked if I would let him split it into two payments... then asked if he could do three... then four. I decided four checks for $125 was better than losing my entire $500, so I told him this would be ok. An envelope arrived in the mail a few days later containing four post-dated checks for $125. But.... they weren't signed. I contacted him again to tell him abut this and he proceeded to send me a photo of his signature on a piece of paper telling me "sign it this way." At this point, I called the police and the bank. Since the money had been sent as a gift on paypal, I couldn't get it back through them. The police asked me to break off all communication with him, provide copies of all text messages and emails, and get in touch with the bank. The bank conducted their own investigation and determined that this constitutes fraud. They were consequently able to reverse the charge this afternoon, resulting in my $500 being returned to my account. driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan aka Volvo940tuner has been ripping people off for years. He has walked off with thousands of dollars from many innocent victims. Don't be the next one. If you ever see him selling something (or he wants to buy something from you) run for the hills. He's a scammer, pure and simple. I attempted to contact some of the mods/admins on this website to make them aware, but none of them replied to me. All I can say is watch your back! He's a criminal, and he will rob you blind if you fall victim to one of his schemes. __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!
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10-23-2012, 01:29 AM	#5
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 587 iTrader: (5)	Nah, I have no interest in meeting up with him, threatening him, or harassing him. I'm not seeking vengeance, I just want to help make sure nobody else gets ripped off. __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!

10-23-2012, 02:00 AM	#6
Wesley Crusher ~ Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alpha Quadrant Posts: 2,790 iTrader: (12)	When doing business online, always research who you are selling to/buying from. I try to avoid doing business with members who have 0 feedback. If I see that a member has lots of good feedback, I feel much better, but I always do a quick search of the person's name/email/phone number to see if any red flags come up. Also, never use paypal gift. The extra 3% that you have to pay is worth the satisfaction of knowing that if you get ripped off, paypal can refund your money. I'm glad to hear that the bank sided with you. Now, let's ban this guy. This community has no room for scammers! __________________ Cobb \| Macht Schnell \| Big Tom \| BMS \| Koni \| H&R \| Dinan

10-23-2012, 09:45 PM	#7
N55 Major Drives: 2012 335IS E92 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,133 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 BMW 335IS [3.20] 2011 BMW 335XI (SOLD) [2.33] 2008 BMW 335xi (SOLD) [5.00]	Thanks for the heads up. Glad you got your money back from that bastard. __________________ 2008 335xi E90 Alpine White - Sold - 8/19/10 > 2011 335xi E90 Jet Black - Sold - 6/27/12 > 2012 335IS E92 Crimson Red - Current

10-23-2012, 10:15 PM	#8
JoeyBananaz18 Brigadier General Drives: metrocard Join Date: May 2009 Location: Whitestone, NY Posts: 3,610 iTrader: (2)	Wow that sucks but I'm glad it all worked out in the end. __________________ 7/18/09- I pick up my baby- 2009 E92 335i Xdrive, Space Gray over Coral Red. Premium Pkg, Cold Weather Pkg, M-Sport Pkg, 193Ms, Gloss Black grills, Custom Gloss Black Mirrors, Performance shift and E-brake boot, M3 spoiler, Euro fog switch, gloss black interior tim, Coco-Mats (red/black), H&R coilovers, 19'' Alufelgen SF-71s......

10-20-2012, 05:46 PM	#2
BrazilianBimmer Captain Drives: Black e90 325i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 696 iTrader: (0)	Thank you. Do you happen to have a picture of this lying scamming bastard!?

10-22-2012, 02:53 PM	#4
divisionbell77 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 335i XDrive Coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 285 iTrader: (0)	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748554 Boom. Have someone here meet up with him.

10-24-2012, 01:38 PM	#12
Slow_335i Daily Driven! Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Peoria IL Posts: 2,429 iTrader: (11) Garage List 2008 BMW 335I [3.32]	What a pos __________________

10-24-2012, 08:47 PM	#13
OECMG Banned Drives: 2008 328xi Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: PA Posts: 46 iTrader: (0)	Amazing such scammers exist.

10-24-2012, 11:36 PM	#14
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 587 iTrader: (5)	The scary part is how extremely believable this guy is. He almost talked me into buying a carbon fiber lip to go with it, for an extra chunk of change. He knew how to talk the talk, offer up details, and really make it sound good. That's why I was willing to send the money to him as a gift. He's an expert scammer, and he really knows how to make it sound believable. __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!

01-06-2013, 09:41 PM	#15
tigermack OPN DIFF Drives: e90 TiAg Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pacific Ocean Posts: 797 iTrader: (6) Garage List 1995 BMW e36 325i [3.50] 2006 BMW e90 330i [3.88]	Why is he still here?! http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=159266 __________________ M-tech front bumper\Hartge CF lip\OEM blacklines\M3 steering wheel\BMS powerbox\ST coilovers\19x9 & 19x10 m359 e36 - racecar - SCCA STX #188

01-07-2013, 11:53 AM	#16
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 587 iTrader: (5)	Who knows? I reported this to a site admin and never got a reply. Guess they don't mind scammers ripping off their forum members. __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!

01-09-2013, 01:06 AM	#17
DC_Oldboy O-(^.~Q) Drives: 2006 330i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 2,337 iTrader: (34) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [4.00]	Wow he should be banned... __________________

01-13-2013, 04:49 PM	#18
EYE4SPEED Ex-Quattro Driver Drives: E90 335d M-Sport LCI Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: West Coast... of Michigan Posts: 1,984 iTrader: (21)	PP now limits the gifts at $500 - you need to do multiple transactions for high priced items. Gifting is a good way to avoid fees - ONLY if there is a bunch of feedback and you have talked to the person. This doesn't guarantee anything, but much higher probability of successful transaction. Not such a big deal on low priced items, but on some really expensive items this can add up to $100's of dollars in fees. Glad the OP got his money back, but PP fees are getting silly. __________________ FS: HRE Center Caps http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...post13972317l] FS: OEM Kidneys http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783447

05-05-2013, 01:39 PM	#19
Dark_Knight_335 Came to the N55 Darkside Drives: 2011 335 E93 M-Sport Join Date: May 2010 Location: NY/NJ Posts: 5,580 iTrader: (17)	Sorry for your bad experience Andy It's idiots like this that give folks like me a bad name. I have had plenty of folks gift me money for goods I provided as a personal seller on here- never a problem. I would rather pocket the money that stupid PayPal skims off for whatever- anyone who isn't a full fledged business will agree __________________ Assorted E9x bushings, 200$ local pickup or 225$ shipped! http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...2#post13995632

05-05-2013, 02:33 PM	#20
AndyR83 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 587 iTrader: (5)	The reason these people are able to get away with it is because so many reputable sellers are out there on forums like this that consumers get used to being able to trust people. It sucks that they take advantage of that __________________ Do NOT do business with driftbrick744 aka Ian Haan!!!

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