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      10-26-2012, 04:32 AM   #23
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This is a track dedicated car with a price close to M3, but with much better performances!
Alpina has done a great job, as always!
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      10-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #24
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disappointed and surprised it isn't a manual
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      10-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #25
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disappointed and surprised it isn't a manual
Why the M3 is effectively an auto as well. the Alpina can be used as manual and provide 100 millisecond upshifts under full load, and holds set gear regardless to rev as per manual box.

I bet the Alpina can change gear faster than you!
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Do they have homemade DSG or double cluth trans ? The controls are similar to cars equipped with the more mundane ZF trans.
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      10-26-2012, 05:52 PM   #27
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      10-27-2012, 12:32 PM   #28
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Why the M3 is effectively an auto as well. the Alpina can be used as manual and provide 100 millisecond upshifts under full load, and holds set gear regardless to rev as per manual box.

I bet the Alpina can change gear faster than you!
haha fair enough think its just a shame a 'drivers car' such as this isnt a manual. and its only 6 speed!?
Your right the m3 isnt either... but thats a DCT isnt it? which in my view makes up for it!
if the alpina has a DCT g'box then that would be the best of both worlds
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haha fair enough think its just a shame a 'drivers car' such as this isnt a manual. and its only 6 speed!?
Your right the m3 isnt either... but thats a DCT isnt it? which in my view makes up for it!
if the alpina has a DCT g'box then that would be the best of both worlds
Did you know that they only made a manual M5 for the US... Europeans are all changing to double-clutch or fast automatic cars...
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So, a tuned N54 335i beats an M3 GTS with 450hp on the track, not only on a straight line. I would say this is quite impressive !
No, the B3 GT3 did not beat the M3 GTS in a straight line.
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Did you know that they only made a manual M5 for the US... Europeans are all changing to double-clutch or fast automatic cars...
i think its interesting to see how things are changing. you used to associate americans with automatics and europeans with manuals, and now it appears to be changing. i wonder what the reason is?
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i think its interesting to see how things are changing. you used to associate americans with automatics and europeans with manuals, and now it appears to be changing. i wonder what the reason is?
I think automatic cars have evolved from slow grandpa cars to fast sporty cars...

The first double-clutch cars have initiated a new way of thinking...
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Nice. Not so keen on that green interior, but it's still a nice car.
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I think automatic cars have evolved from slow grandpa cars to fast sporty cars...

The first double-clutch cars have initiated a new way of thinking...
that is very true, the 8AT and DCT are impressive to put it mildly. However it still doesn't explain why more Americans are buying manuals?
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Do they have homemade DSG or double cluth trans ? The controls are similar to cars equipped with the more mundane ZF trans.
It's exactly the same AT as in a normal 335i. Only the transmission software has been tweaked by ZF in order to provide faster shifting times and complete manual control (i.e. no automatical upshifting).

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It's exactly the same AT as in a normal 335i. Only the transmission software has been tweaked by ZF in order to provide faster shifting times and complete manual control (i.e. no automatical upshifting).

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Came across this old thread and I just like to say that let's not forget that both of these cars are running much stickier tires (Michelin Sport Cup) than the standard M3, which came with Pilot PS2s.

http://www.thealpinaregister.com/for...83b420737eaaec

Tires are one of the biggest factors in changing a car's performance. I think it would be more fair to compare the standard M3 with sport cups against these two if you're going to compare their performance differences.
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