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      10-25-2012, 05:27 PM   #111
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What are my options, my engine has gone bye bye according to the dealer and will cost $15000 to fix. My insurance won't cover. Trying to see what Gap insurance will do, but it that is a no go, what are my options, can I still buy an extended warranty? Car is a 2007 BMW 335i E92 with 45000 miles.
find a salvage m3 and take the motor and trans out and buy a couple cases of beer and a friend who can put it in
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Sticky situation. For those who keep asking why he didn't replace his head gasket. The BMW tech told him he'd be fine! If a BMW tech told me that, I'd trust his opinion especially if I didn't know anything about engines.
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      10-25-2012, 05:55 PM   #113
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...there is a play there but not enough for a full jump. If the tensioner is the cause this is highly unlikely to happen suddenly and to go unnoticed. Doesn't have to do with the oil leak in my opinion.
It is a very strange story. Knowing what BMW &^%$*&^ technicians are capable of (at least here in MA) nothing would surprise me.
I would tow the car in to another dealer, or a indy shop, they never should have let you leave with a major oil leak in the first place, but as others have said it seems as though it might not have been related to the oil leak at all, if it was an improperly tensioned "timing belt" you may be able to put that back on them and get it covered if it was their mishap during the oil leak inspection that caused your engine to fail.

As others have said no you cannot get an extended warranty, they are either going to inspect the car, or refuse the claim that you blew your engine a week after purchasing the warranty.
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      10-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #114
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may i hear the rest?
Unfortunately I understand the OPs situation too well. Long story short, found out that my engine (cyl #6) had a cracked liner after 2 mechanics also thoughts it was a head gasket problem. Similar signs were: engine tick noise, no hard engine codes, soft code about coolant, and misfire to cylinder #6. Pressurized test showed 4 PSI lower in cyl #6, but still within spec. It was the pressurized coolant test showed the true nature of the issue. Leakage into cyl #6.

My situation resulted in a ill fitted pipe connection to the turbo vacuum chamber. By not properly connecting pipe to the vacuum chamber, the rear turbo provided the rear set of cylinders full charge of boost. The crack liner did not show itself until the latest mechanic offered to change my coolant. He did not purge the coolant system of air from the system. After driving the car for 180 miles after the work, the car showed all types of problems. Overheating the engine ultimately made the cylinder crack crack worst.

$8500 later and a replaced motor (38K), the car drives great.

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      10-25-2012, 08:50 PM   #115
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When do people forget basic lessons like "it isn't cool to rip people off," and "you should do the right thing"? What the fuck is wrong with you? Were your parents complete assholes, or did you pick it up independently? I'm trying to get my head around what made you think it would be "ok" to buy an extended warranty for an ALREADY BROKEN CAR and then go and make a warranty claim. Irrespective of the strict legality (again, if you're confused: it's illegal), didn't that jump out at you as an obviously immoral thing to do?
AMEN to that brother! What in the world have we come to? If the OP is indeed suggesting that he purchase a warranty and try to get the car fixed under said warranty...well, that's called "stealing" plain and simple. Ridiculous.
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      10-25-2012, 09:12 PM   #116
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OP i just had a great idea!!!

Here is your new engine:

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Do it! We should all pitch in on this. Ive only seen it on one other car, and it was in China.
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      10-26-2012, 12:08 AM   #117
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As others have said you need to reach out to BMW NA, your car inservice date is the first date your car was registered, which means your warranty is good for 4 years/ 50k miles from that date. When you brought your car in the cracked gasket should have been covered under the warranty, and since they did not replace it, and you were told it did not need replacing for at least a month, you should be able to place it back on the tech who was no forthcoming in fixing the car properly, and have the engine replaced at no charge.
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      10-26-2012, 02:04 AM   #118
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Please video tape the conversation with your SA when you ask to purchase the extended warranty.
This had me loling big time.

No way will you be able to buy an extended warranty then try to claim a completely new engine a day later.
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      10-26-2012, 07:10 AM   #119
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Regardless of how the serpentine belt is damaged, HOW could debris from it end up in the oil??
I'm also curious about this; I've seen other posts mentioning something about parts of the belt being "sucked into the engine" and I'm having trouble fathoming how that is possible.

I'll admit I'm new to BMW's and haven't dug around under the hood yet, so there's plenty I don't know in terms of how BMW does things. Yet with a couple decades of working on cars and motorcycles I'm at a loss to think of how chunks of an accessories belt could get into the oil system.

Anyone able to explain this?
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      10-26-2012, 10:51 AM   #120
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The warranty part of this story doesnt add it...for starters the biggest FACT this that the car should have a warranty since the IN SERVICE DATE is in 08 NOT 07. The dealership wouldnt just skip that because there is a system your SA runs to cross check the warranty status based on your VIN. The car must have been salvaged or modded but its first owner, voiding the warranty.
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      10-26-2012, 11:06 AM   #121
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That's cheap to repair, $3,800. LOL

I shouldn't LOL because my car falls under the SIB, but I've never seen anything on the belt or pulley.
When you do an intake carbon clean replace the mount and sleep easy.
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      10-26-2012, 11:18 AM   #122
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When you do an intake carbon clean replace the mount and sleep easy.
Is there a DIY on the mount replacement?
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      10-26-2012, 02:03 PM   #123
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Just picked up the car from the dealer. First they didn't put the engine back together completely. Some parts are in the trunk and some hose thing is tucked inside the engine bay. Here's their diagnosis


Here is the engine (not fully reassembled)


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      10-26-2012, 02:13 PM   #124
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Just picked up the car from the dealer. First they didn't put the engine back together completely. Here's their diagnosis


Here is the engine
First? Half your engine bay parts are missing.
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      10-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #125
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First? Half your engine bay parts are missing.
Did you read the first line? The engine cover is in the trunk theres also some hose thing they tucked under in the engine bay.
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Did you read the first line? The engine cover is in the trunk theres also some hose thing they tucked under in the engine bay.
I read the whole thing. You neve rmentioned The parts being in the trunk. Did you contact BMW na like everyone told you to do?
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I read the whole thing. You neve rmentioned The parts being in the trunk. Did you contact BMW na like everyone told you to do?
Yes I did. They said that the factory warranty started in 2006 when the car was built and ended December 2010
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      10-26-2012, 02:28 PM   #128
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Sounds like the top end of the motor oil starved, the cam shaft the froze in place and then messed up the timing chain timing. The only way I can see parts of belt material getting in the timing chain area would be if the serp belt shredded and then got past the crankshaft seal if the end of the crank was damaged, then wobbled when the cam froze. Either way, seems like the motor is toast.
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Yes I did. They said that the factory warranty started in 2006 when the car was built and ended December 2010
Doesn't really make sense since the in service date says 2008

Kind of odd. Do you know if the car was a loaner or demo before you purchased it?
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Doesn't really make sense since the in service date says 2008

Kind of odd. Do you know if the car was a loaner or demo before you purchased it?
It was a single owner, only had 31,000 miles when I bought it last year. Pretty low for a 2007 car.
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Honestly tow it to laurel bmw. See what they say wat they can do for you. On two occasions my buddy with his 335xi w/ warranty went to Bill Jacobs told him that they couldn't do anything about his mirror discoloring. Went to laurel and they did it for free. Buddy out of warranty for E46 M3 for the common subframe issue went to Bill jabobs eff off this is too old of a car and costs us like 10k. Went to Laurel BMW and they took it in and not only did the service for him but a free oil change and detail for being 2 days late than told. Took a month to fix...


Go to a good dealership. Well whats done is done. Easy way to take care of this situation is gasoline and a lighter.
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      10-26-2012, 02:51 PM   #132
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Now they are giving you bullets. You said you had many many issues with serp. belt, while the car was still under warranty? And now they acknowledge that serp. belt morcels are to blame (don't understand how they manage to get there but they say it). Something you may leverage on.
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