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      10-26-2012, 03:53 PM   #133
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      10-26-2012, 04:35 PM   #134
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OP, you still need the motor?
Let me know.
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      10-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #135
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Wait wait wait, let me get this straight. They are telling you the warranty started in 2006, when the car was built, and thus ended in 2010? And per the central database that the dealership accesses, your car's VIN says its in-service date was 10/14/2008 (meaning the first day it was sold to its first owner)?

So based on this logic, let me pose a hypothetical situation: If a dealership orders a new model year car from Germany, and it arrives and sits on the lot for a year and a half before being sold, the dealership can only offer the remaining two and a half years of the 4-year/50k new car warranty to its first owner?! That's ridiculous.

Again, unless you're not telling us something (or you don't know something) about the history of this car, I would be pressing this point until I was blue in the face. It may be the difference between $5-15K, and free.
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      10-26-2012, 05:33 PM   #136
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2007 car with warranty starts in 2006...Rofl
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      10-26-2012, 06:17 PM   #137
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OP, time to get a lawyer. In service date is 2008, when they had the car they should have fixed everything under warranty. Get a lawyer then post an update (when the case is over). Open the yellow pages there are 1000000s of lawyers out there. Consultations are free and bring in your paper work.
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      10-26-2012, 06:22 PM   #138
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Show the lawyer this too.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte.../Warranty.aspx.
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      10-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #140
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      10-26-2012, 07:37 PM   #141
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OP, you still need the motor?
Let me know.
I do.
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      10-26-2012, 07:42 PM   #142
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I do.
Op, why is your car not covered under warranty, did you see my posts above? Answer this, was your car salvaged?
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Op, why is your car not covered under warranty, did you see my posts above? Answer this, was your car salvaged?
No, I bought it from the dealer.
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No, I bought it from the dealer.
So then why won't you make an appointment with an attorney? The link I provided you clearly shows when the warranty starts. Your invoice in post 35 shows you brought it to them before it expired but they wanted to charge you instead of fixing it under warranty. You rather buy an engine without even asking a lawyer if you have a case? I feel like you are not telling us something.
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So then why won't you make an appointment with an attorney? The link I provided you clearly shows when the warranty starts. Your invoice in post 35 shows you brought it to them before it expired but they wanted to charge you instead of fixing it under warranty. You rather buy an engine without even asking a lawyer if you have a case? I feel like you are not telling us something.
It doesn't make sense to me either he just plowed about 1200.00 into the car and all he got out of it was an oil change on an exploded engine. How did they charge 810 for diagnostics generally diagnostic is a flat charge never paid more than 165 regardless of how long it takes to find the problem.

The dealership is shady.
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It doesn't make sense to me either he just plowed about 1200.00 into the car and all he got out of it was an oil change on an exploded engine. How did they charge 810 for diagnostics generally diagnostic is a flat charge never paid more than 165 regardless of how long it takes to find the problem.

The dealership is shady.
Another reason to get an attorney involved. Maybe OP is scared of attorneys? . An attorney might get Bmw to pay attorney fees. Unless, he is hiding a very important fact.
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So then why won't you make an appointment with an attorney? The link I provided you clearly shows when the warranty starts. Your invoice in post 35 shows you brought it to them before it expired but they wanted to charge you instead of fixing it under warranty. You rather buy an engine without even asking a lawyer if you have a case? I feel like you are not telling us something.
I think something smell funny with this post.
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      10-27-2012, 12:02 AM   #148
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It doesn't make sense to me either he just plowed about 1200.00 into the car and all he got out of it was an oil change on an exploded engine. How did they charge 810 for diagnostics generally diagnostic is a flat charge never paid more than 165 regardless of how long it takes to find the problem.

The dealership is shady.
They didn't do a simple diagnosis. They did a partial engine teardown.
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      10-27-2012, 12:23 AM   #149
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2007 car with warranty starts in 2006...Rofl
Whats funny about this? 2007 model year showed up in 2006 and punched when sold in 2006 so warranty starts in 2006....
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I think something smell funny with this post.
I don't have the time or patient for legal action. If I really was under warranty I don't see my they wouldn't tell me. I have called bmw na and they told me I was out of warranty in December 2010. I will call them again to see exactly what date the factory warranty started for my car, then we'll see if it makes sense. The lady I talked to said it started in 2006 can't remember the exact date though. Will update you guys, in the mean time looks for an engine as close to 50,000 miles as possible and budget of $3500-$4500.
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They didn't do a simple diagnosis. They did a partial engine teardown.
I had both my turbos ripped out for 165.00 diagnostics. I'd say that's not simple diagnostics. I'll say again, I've never paid more than 165 for diagnostic regardless of the type of damage.
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I don't have the time or patient for legal action. If I really was under warranty I don't see my they wouldn't tell me. I have called bmw na and they told me I was out of warranty in December 2010. I will call them again to see exactly what date the factory warranty started for my car, then we'll see if it makes sense. The lady I talked to said it started in 2006 can't remember the exact date though. Will update you guys, in the mean time looks for an engine as close to 50,000 miles as possible and budget of $3500-$4500.
Make sure you tell them your paper work states the cars first in service date was oct 2008.

I am almost thinking your car was a demo car or a loaner.
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      10-27-2012, 08:40 AM   #154
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I don't have the time or patient for legal action. If I really was under warranty I don't see my they wouldn't tell me. I have called bmw na and they told me I was out of warranty in December 2010. I will call them again to see exactly what date the factory warranty started for my car, then we'll see if it makes sense. The lady I talked to said it started in 2006 can't remember the exact date though. Will update you guys, in the mean time looks for an engine as close to 50,000 miles as possible and budget of $3500-$4500.
Don't trust too easy. I had a dealer in Illinois write down that they performed certain work and charged me over $600. I took the car home and inspected their work to find out that they did NOTHING. Got my money back after threatening to sue and inform the Attorney General's office of their fraud.

That being said. They are the ones who wrote the in-service date on BOTH your invoices as 2008. They also told you that you can have it fixed later (when your warranty expires so they can charge you for repairs when you return). The burden is on them to PROVIDE with the paperwork showing you an in-service date BEFORE 2008. If they don't provide it to you then I say they lied to you and hire an attorney.

You can have your attorney write them a letter demanding that they repair the car otherwise you will have it repaired and sue them for damages. Your attorney can give them a certain time to respond (15 days?) so you are not waiting forever and you can take steps to have your car fixed.

Naturally, the choice is yours, but keep in mind, dealers are know as "stealers" for a reason.
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