Vargas Stage I Turbo First Impressions - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

sahyoun · 09-29-2012, 09:39 PM

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sammy_0559 · 09-29-2012, 11:07 PM

nice

stage 2's :3

anyways. u might wanna take jb4 out of ur sig

idrift4wd · 09-30-2012, 01:41 AM

how much for upgrade? and is it just like RB? send in turbo and wait for replacement? Price?

looking forward to dyno numbers

Simple3 · 09-30-2012, 01:51 AM

Mods please move this to the n54 section where it belongs!!! Looking forward to dyno results!!!

BMW_Belgier · 09-30-2012, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

how much for upgrade? and is it just like RB? send in turbo and wait for replacement? Price?

looking forward to dyno numbers

+1

How was the install? Any probs?

shaginwagon13 · 10-02-2012, 03:44 PM

I am gonna get these turbo's as well when my OEM ones go. Please keep us updated with the dyno results.

type rrr · 10-02-2012, 03:59 PM

great new's !!!!!!!!!!!

sahyoun · 10-02-2012, 09:55 PM

So basically my car was boosting fine then all of the sudden no boost and half engine light, apparantly the rear turbo intake hose came off and a foreign object went in and messed up the compressor wheel and put it out of balance

shaginwagon13 · 10-02-2012, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahyoun

So basically my car was boosting fine then all of the sudden no boost and half engine light, apparantly the rear turbo intake hose came off and a foreign object went in and messed up the compressor wheel and put it out of balance

Uh ohhhhhh.

Would that be a warranty issue with Vargas or with the mechanic who installed the turbos and the lines?

mave198 · 10-02-2012, 10:02 PM

I think OP was the mechanic.

Hopefully its a quick fix, alot of people are anxious to see these turbos on the dyno.

shaginwagon13 · 10-02-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mave198

I think OP was the mechanic.

Hopefully its a quick fix, alot of people are anxious to see these turbos on the dyno.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahyoun

...a foreign object went in and messed up the compressor wheel and put it out of balance

That sounds like it has to go back to Vargas for some repairs. Get these bad-boys fixed and get on a dyno cause I wanna go with Vargas for my upgrade as well.

sahyoun · 10-03-2012, 11:13 AM

I installed them first on jack stands in my driveway but vargas reinstalled them properly but i guess its a common problem on rbs and he told me there was a bracket missing that holds the rear intake tube to the engine. So the engine was free to move basically. And yeah the car should be up and running today and possibly dyno'd tonight or tomorrow

Rob@RBTurbo · 10-03-2012, 11:23 AM

I have had one customer (dzenno) have this happen a year or so ago on his RBs. Last week a newly installed set it seems suffered the same fate. If ANY turbo eats something, its game over. Sometimes it is carelessness, installation or platform learning curve, or just bad luck. Either way it's a real bum deal.

But least youll be back up and running quickly!

Rob

Joshboody · 10-03-2012, 12:05 PM

I'm sure the issue stems from install and how rough someone is with the intake tube pressing on the bracket. Can this bracket be removed (without too much trouble)with the various install options for turbos? Dropping the subframe probably no prob, but lifting the engine, maybe not.

You can reach your hand down from the top to check it.

Evil///M · 10-03-2012, 12:23 PM

I wonder how many stage 1's he has available. I'm seriously thinking about it...

enrita · 10-03-2012, 12:37 PM

if you do it than do it right means upgrade compressor and most important TURBINE

jippii ensio · 10-03-2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahyoun

I installed them first on jack stands in my driveway but vargas reinstalled them properly but i guess its a common problem on rbs and he told me there was a bracket missing that holds the rear intake tube to the engine. So the engine was free to move basically. And yeah the car should be up and running today and possibly dyno'd tonight or tomorrow

"i guess it is a common problem on rbs" is misleading because there are dozens of rbs out there and the problem has nothing to do with rbs as turbo hardware. It looks like either you or Vargas removed the bracket or did not fasten it properly.

Nice that you'll get it running and dynoed so quickly.

Rob@RBTurbo · 10-03-2012, 01:36 PM

Agree with jippii e, FOD (foreign object damage) will get any turbo.

Considering 120+ turbos (60+ sets) total RBs out there, the couple encountered to date is actually pretty good.

RSTECH · 10-03-2012, 03:23 PM

Looking forward to dyno results

sahyoun · 10-04-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

"i guess it is a common problem on rbs" is misleading because there are dozens of rbs out there and the problem has nothing to do with rbs as turbo hardware. It looks like either you or Vargas removed the bracket or did not fasten it properly.

Nice that you'll get it running and dynoed so quickly.

Sorry, i meant that the whole problem with the tube coming off is a problem experienced by multiple upgraded turbos, but i could be wrong. I guess its missing that bracket which is why this happened.

Rob@RBTurbo · 10-04-2012, 11:52 AM

It moreso can be a very rare problem during any turbo swap, but I have only seen it happen a time or two.

sahyoun · 10-04-2012, 11:54 AM

Someone should make an intake that just ditches that whole wrap around the engine bs

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09-30-2012, 01:41 AM	#3
idrift4wd Colonel Drives: Three Hundred and Thirty Five Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yonkers NY Posts: 2,492 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW [3.25]	how much for upgrade? and is it just like RB? send in turbo and wait for replacement? Price? looking forward to dyno numbers

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Simple3 Lieutenant Drives: e90 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 435 iTrader: (7)	Mods please move this to the n54 section where it belongs!!! Looking forward to dyno results!!!

10-02-2012, 03:44 PM	#6
shaginwagon13 Captain Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 849 iTrader: (4)	I am gonna get these turbo's as well when my OEM ones go. Please keep us updated with the dyno results.

10-02-2012, 09:55 PM	#8
sahyoun Lieutenant Drives: E92 Procede V5 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 462 iTrader: (0)	So basically my car was boosting fine then all of the sudden no boost and half engine light, apparantly the rear turbo intake hose came off and a foreign object went in and messed up the compressor wheel and put it out of balance

10-02-2012, 10:02 PM	#10
mave198 First Lieutenant Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Brooklyn NYC Posts: 371 iTrader: (2)	I think OP was the mechanic. Hopefully its a quick fix, alot of people are anxious to see these turbos on the dyno.

10-03-2012, 11:13 AM	#12
sahyoun Lieutenant Drives: E92 Procede V5 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 462 iTrader: (0)	I installed them first on jack stands in my driveway but vargas reinstalled them properly but i guess its a common problem on rbs and he told me there was a bracket missing that holds the rear intake tube to the engine. So the engine was free to move basically. And yeah the car should be up and running today and possibly dyno'd tonight or tomorrow

10-03-2012, 11:23 AM	#13
Rob@RBTurbo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 719 iTrader: (3)	I have had one customer (dzenno) have this happen a year or so ago on his RBs. Last week a newly installed set it seems suffered the same fate. If ANY turbo eats something, its game over. Sometimes it is carelessness, installation or platform learning curve, or just bad luck. Either way it's a real bum deal. But least youll be back up and running quickly! Rob

10-03-2012, 12:05 PM	#14
Joshboody Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 335i E90 6MT v5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,539 iTrader: (7)	I'm sure the issue stems from install and how rough someone is with the intake tube pressing on the bracket. Can this bracket be removed (without too much trouble)with the various install options for turbos? Dropping the subframe probably no prob, but lifting the engine, maybe not. You can reach your hand down from the top to check it.

10-03-2012, 01:36 PM	#18
Rob@RBTurbo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 719 iTrader: (3)	Agree with jippii e, FOD (foreign object damage) will get any turbo. Considering 120+ turbos (60+ sets) total RBs out there, the couple encountered to date is actually pretty good.

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10-04-2012, 11:52 AM	#21
Rob@RBTurbo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 719 iTrader: (3)	It moreso can be a very rare problem during any turbo swap, but I have only seen it happen a time or two.

10-04-2012, 11:54 AM	#22
sahyoun Lieutenant Drives: E92 Procede V5 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 462 iTrader: (0)	Someone should make an intake that just ditches that whole wrap around the engine bs

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