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      05-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #1
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Fitment with Style 230 and Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires

I am the new owner of a set of Style 230 19 inch staggered wheels. Although I originally was looking for 18 inch Style 193's, I found a deal I could not pass up. The wheel size and offsets are Front 19 by 8 ET 37 and Rear 19 by 9 ET 39

My biggest concern over using 19 inch was sidewall protection on poor roads. Although the original combo I planned to use was going to be 225/35/19 and 265/30/19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, I came up with two Pilot Super Sport combinations that could add some additional sidewall protection. They are 235/35/19 Front with 275/30/19 Rear or 225/40/19 Front with 265/35/19 rear. I am somewhat concerned with the additional tire height of the second option.

My car is a 2009 E90 sedan with sport package and stock ride height. Is anyone running the Style 230 with either of these combinations without clearance problems?
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Why not 235/35 + 265/30?
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      05-30-2012, 11:13 AM   #3
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Why not 235/35 + 265/30?
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Based on the TireRack specs, the 265-30-19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports are 2/10ths of an inch shorter that the 235's on the front. The 275's are slightly taller than the 235's by 1/10th of an inch. This provides only a 3 rpm variation front to back and appears to be a better fitment match to the 235's.
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      05-30-2012, 01:09 PM   #5
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But then your rear tires are 40mm wider than the front while the rear rims are only 25mm wider than the front (if that makes sense ) I personally would do 225/35/19 255/30/19 especially since those tires run wide.
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+1. This sounds about right. This is the size we recommend on our wheels. I'm not 100% sure about your OEMs.
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Why not 235/35 + 265/30?
Remmib knows a lot about this stuff....

I run this exact size, but not in a PSS. I would not INCREASE the stagger.... I am trying to reduce the stagger to increase handling.

don't go 225 / 275 - that will increase your understeer and balance.

Keep with 235/265 as remmib recommends - that will give lots of rim protection as the PSS does fit wide. When you get them, post pics please (and a review)

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what size wheels and brand did you go with? I am getting my 230 next week.

I need to decide between the 225/255 vs 235/265 michelin super sports. I am lowered on coils and would like to get as flush as possible. Was thinking 225/255 was the way to go for a lowered car since the Michelins run wide.

Your feedback is appreciated.
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Can anybody post pics of a Michelin PSS on 230 stock 19s

for the front:
225/35/19
235/35/19
245/35/19 (I don't think anybody can make this fit)

and for the rear
255/30/19
265/30/19
275/30/19 (I don't think anybody can make this fit)

My GUESS is that going 2 sizes up on the 230s with a wide running PSS is a mistake for handling, rubbing and overall - it is just too big. This is a GUESS.

I would think you would need to go with a 8.5" and a 9.5" or 10" rim to make the 2 sizes up fit PROPERLY to ensure the handling is the way we would want. It has to be better handling, not just to have wider tires on - in my opinion.
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DaFish -

How do you like the 235/265 setup you have now? How much are you lowered?

I like the idea of the 235/265 for extra rim protection.. I just dont wanna rub since I know the PSS is a little on the wide side.
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How do you like the 235/265 setup you have now? How much are you lowered?

I like the idea of the 235/265 for extra rim protection.. I just dont wanna rub since I know the PSS is a little on the wide side.
hi, the 235/265 is a great setup, it doesn't look wider than the RFTs... they look perfect on the rim.

I would really like to see the 235/265 PSS on the 230 because that is what I am going to in the spring.

I have the Dinan Stage 3 - .5 inch on the rear, and no drop on the front due to the fact I have camber plates. With the camber plates and M3 front wishbones, I could go much bigger RIMS on the front, but not bigger tires on the 230s with the PSSs.... I think.
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hi, the 235/265 is a great setup, it doesn't look wider than the RFTs... they look perfect on the rim.

I would really like to see the 235/265 PSS on the 230 because that is what I am going to in the spring.

I have the Dinan Stage 3 - .5 inch on the rear, and no drop on the front due to the fact I have camber plates. With the camber plates and M3 front wishbones, I could go much bigger RIMS on the front, but not bigger tires on the 230s with the PSSs.... I think.
I have both the front and back tires about 1.2 finger gap with 18s and Michelin Sport A/S in 225/255. Just not sure if I wanna risk the 235/265 with the PSS next week when the 230 rims get here. Seems like a lot of people say the PSS is about 6-7mm wider than marked. Its a toss up. Cost me about 300 more for the 235/265 vs the 225/255 PSS setup. And I really wanna run the car a tad bit lower and not rub.
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I have both the front and back tires about 1.2 finger gap with 18s and Michelin Sport A/S in 225/255. Just not sure if I wanna risk the 235/265 with the PSS next week when the 230 rims get here. Seems like a lot of people say the PSS is about 6-7mm wider than marked. Its a toss up. Cost me about 300 more for the 235/265 vs the 225/255 PSS setup. And I really wanna run the car a tad bit lower and not rub.
I am with you on that... it just can't rub.
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I am with you on that... it just can't rub.
I ordered the 225/255 setup. Should have them installed this friday afternoon.

Wanted the 235/265 but didnt want to spend 3-4 hundred more dollars to find out they will rub. When they wear out I will upgrade the size if I feel like they will fit without rubbing. I plan on spacing them out as flush as possible. Then barely tucking the top of the rear tire and then leaving about 1/2 finger fender gap on fronts.

I will send ya a picture when I get a chance. Gonna mess with suspension Friday night and get an alignment saturday morning.
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I ordered the 225/255 setup. Should have them installed this friday afternoon.

Wanted the 235/265 but didnt want to spend 3-4 hundred more dollars to find out they will rub. When they wear out I will upgrade the size if I feel like they will fit without rubbing. I plan on spacing them out as flush as possible. Then barely tucking the top of the rear tire and then leaving about 1/2 finger fender gap on fronts.

I will send ya a picture when I get a chance. Gonna mess with suspension Friday night and get an alignment saturday morning.
Great ! Thanks for that. Are you stock sports suspension all round?
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Great ! Thanks for that. Are you stock sports suspension all round?
No. I am sitting on coils. Both front and rear are about 1/2 finger gap with factory 189s today.
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