PTF UPDATE: 553WHP 631WTQ - N54 TwinTurbo World Record - Page 3 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

mithiral67 · 11-13-2012, 07:31 PM

Ha, some post a dyno with a sloping hp curve with max power north of 6k and its called useless. Some post a dyno with over 430 wtq over 3k to 6k rpms and its called useless. Can't make everyone happy.

sA x sKy · 11-13-2012, 07:32 PM

I would be scared shitless to drive a car with that much TQ. Awesome!

kenneth · 11-13-2012, 07:43 PM

Nice numbers Dzenno! So what would you say was the impact of the ported head?

mithiral67 · 11-13-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sA x sKy

I would be scared shitless to drive a car with that much TQ. Awesome!

I drove an awd car with that much tq and she was terrifying with traction control off. Would love to see some track numbers.

turb0mike · 11-13-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mithiral67

Ha, some post a dyno with a sloping hp curve with max power north of 6k and its called useless. Some post a dyno with over 430 wtq over 3k to 6k rpms and its called useless. Can't make everyone happy.

Just give me peak power at redline (not trailing before) and a flat torque curve after 3k and i'm satisfied!

Jake@PTF · 11-13-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

Just give me peak power at redline (not trailing before) and a flat torque curve after 3k and i'm satisfied!

Get hardware that can flow it. Realistic gains for realistic parts is important. We can make this perfectly flat if you want but it wont have as much power as this does. I can easily make this flat tq from 3k to redline for you but this tune is far more fun

CPWINCH · 11-13-2012, 08:40 PM

high numbers, shitty power band

nice job on the record tho!

CPWINCH · 11-13-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

Just give me peak power at redline (not trailing before) and a flat torque curve after 3k and i'm satisfied!

single turbo is your friend! or get an m3 like i am doing

turb0mike · 11-13-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

single turbo is your friend! or get an m3 like i am doing

Nah, just correct tuning is what I want! I would much rather have a straight HP curve until it drops off, whatever level that is (just around 500whp). Like if that dyno graph stopped at 500whp and carried through redline it would be perfect. And if I could get even like 550 torque flat it would be perfect. Nah what I mean? I would sacrifice peak numbers for a different curve.

turb0mike · 11-13-2012, 08:50 PM

But either way, continue on the tuning! Tony from Vargas said he would hook up a Ported head for me. TOO STOKED.

jazze90 · 11-13-2012, 08:53 PM

OMG!!! I just went for a ride in this car, SCAAARY fast! People this thing is ridiculous pulling 0.9G on the vbox with two of us in the car...i couldn't stop laughing LOL amazing stuff PTF. It is really unbelievable this engine is holding up to this much monsterous torque

rdeterman · 11-13-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

But either way, continue on the tuning! Tony from Vargas said he would hook up a Ported head for me. TOO STOKED.

I am very curious to see some Vargas stage 2 turbo dynos..

zeel · 11-13-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

high numbers, shitty power band

nice job on the record tho!

whats up with all the troll posts? shitty power band? eye check up?

Stucks · 11-13-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zeel

whats up with all the troll posts? shitty power band? eye check up?

+1, Lolwut?

CPWINCH · 11-13-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zeel

whats up with all the troll posts? shitty power band? eye check up?

no trolling. he is making great power but its still a shitty power band. all the power in the world doesnt mean shit without a nice power band. All that power dies after ~5k rpm

this is a nice power band. Power all the way to redline with a flat torque curve.
this is from a boosted S65 (m3)

spool twice · 11-13-2012, 09:29 PM

Who needs to rev past 6,000rpm when you have TQ like this
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Fully_Bolted · 11-13-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

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Originally Posted by zeel

whats up with all the troll posts? shitty power band? eye check up?

no trolling. he is making great power but its still a shitty power band. all the power in the world doesnt mean shit without a nice power band. All that power dies after ~5k rpm

this is a nice power band. Power all the way to redline with a flat torque curve.
this is from a boosted S65 (m3)

Where's the torque?

zeel · 11-13-2012, 09:38 PM

Last post on this thread for me, I know what a nice power band looks like. I just don't think its justified calling the RB power band "shitty", it's just not completely linear. That s/c m3 doesn't make better power than a stock turbo n54 until about 6.7k...

turb0mike · 11-13-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CPWINCH

Now that is a gorgeous dyno!!! That is what I want my curve to look relatively like but with a fat spike in torque. I know it can't be EXACTLY the same, but relatively like that.

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Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted

Where's the torque?

Who needs torque when you have so much HP up top? You just need to keeps the revs high to maintain some power.

Blaizon · 11-13-2012, 09:50 PM

The power band is fine even more impressive for still keeping the stock manifolds/stock frame turbo's.

CPWINCH · 11-13-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by zeel

Last post on this thread for me, I know what a nice power band looks like. I just don't think its justified calling the RB power band "shitty", it's just not completely linear. That s/c m3 doesn't make better power than a stock turbo n54 until about 6.7k...

i feel you. I guess different power bands for different needs!

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Originally Posted by Fully_Bolted

Where's the torque?

I personally dont care to much about A LOT of torque. It justs needs to be linear and controllable so I dont keep spinning tires on track/canyons

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Originally Posted by turb0mike

Now that is a gorgeous dyno!!! That is what I want my curve to look relatively like but with a fat spike in torque. I know it can't be EXACTLY the same, but relatively like that.

Who needs torque when you have so much HP up top? You just need to keeps the revs high to maintain some power.

yup! thats why i sold my 335. I track and take my car on the canyons and prefer a linear and controllable power band not tons of torque and horsepower that falls on its face

DefactoM6 · 11-13-2012, 10:18 PM

zomg, cpwinch and turbomike, have your s65 powerband, and enjoy it. You should also enjoy the look of my tail lights growing further and further away from you as 631 lb/ft puts trains on you...

11-13-2012, 07:31 PM	#45
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