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      04-30-2012, 05:35 PM   #1
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Aquamist HFS-4 System (Vendors!! Where to buy?)

Vendors PM me with your best price shipped to 33904
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      04-30-2012, 11:07 PM   #2
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      04-30-2012, 11:29 PM   #3
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On our site....
Group buy!??

I'll be in the market soon (next month or two)...would be nice to setup something as a group
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GROUP BUY!!!!

if we have enough interest +10 or so I will contact Aquamist directly and see what they will do.

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Is this better than pwm kit?
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Is this better than pwm kit?
The Aquamist kits are P(ulse)W(idth)M(odulated). The Vishnu PWM kit uses Aquamist hardware.
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Count me in for a group buy!!
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      05-01-2012, 12:12 PM   #14
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Is this better than pwm kit?
Both our PWM kit and the Aquamist kit use the same pump, flow sensor, injection valve and nozzles. It's just the electronics/installation that are different. The Aquamist kit is designed to be a stand alone device with standalone controller. Our PWM meth kit is designed to integrate with the Procede tune and actively adjust boost/timing/fuel as a function of meth flow/meth target.

Rules of thumb:
If you have a Procede, get our PWM meth kit. It will integrate/function better than any other option due to its high level of integration.
If you don't have a Procede, get the Aquamist kit. It will work better than any other "non-integrated" standalone meth kit.

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what meth kit do we use if running cobb? does it work with cobb?
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what meth kit do we use if running cobb? does it work with cobb?
You can run an Aquamist with Cobb, they use it on their shop car. However, you will need to have maps tuned for using meth, otherwise, the only benefit of running meth will be cooling IAT's. The other issue is you won't be able to switch maps on the fly. So if you run out of meth, you may run into some issues with timing pulls, pre-detonation, etc.
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I wold like to know if a group buy for vishnu PMW kit with trunk mount tank option would be doable
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You can run an Aquamist with Cobb, they use it on their shop car. However, you will need to have maps tuned for using meth, otherwise, the only benefit of running meth will be cooling IAT's. The other issue is you won't be able to switch maps on the fly. So if you run out of meth, you may run into some issues with timing pulls, pre-detonation, etc.
For those running Meth with Cobb, what map does one use? I don't think you can use any of the off the shelf maps with the Aquamist kit?
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For those running Meth with Cobb, what map does one use? I don't think you can use any of the off the shelf maps with the Aquamist kit?
That's correct.

You would either need a pro-tune or the ability to use the beta race maps.

Or some people are stacking Cobb which I find to be quite redundant.
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You can run an Aquamist with Cobb, they use it on their shop car. However, you will need to have maps tuned for using meth, otherwise, the only benefit of running meth will be cooling IAT's. The other issue is you won't be able to switch maps on the fly. So if you run out of meth, you may run into some issues with timing pulls, pre-detonation, etc.
asked this in another thread, but apparently with the HFS-4 you can run a failsafe with Cobb?

My understanding is a failsafe is used to make the car run a less aggressive map when meth flow stops for whatever reason (clog, empty tank, etc.)... so how is COBB going to be able to run a failsafe if you can't swap maps on the fly with a flash based tune?
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asked this in another thread, but apparently with the HFS-4 you can run a failsafe with Cobb?

My understanding is a failsafe is used to make the car run a less aggressive map when meth flow stops for whatever reason (clog, empty tank, etc.)... so how is COBB going to be able to run a failsafe if you can't swap maps on the fly with a flash based tune?
HFS-4 failsafe opens the wastegates so you don't boost.
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HFS-4 failsafe opens the wastegates so you don't boost.
interesting. thanks for that info!
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