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      02-20-2014, 10:05 AM   #1
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Yellow Gear Shaped warning light

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I recently started having this problem, at highway speeds when the car downshifts it suddenly goes into limp mode with a yellow warning symbol that looks like a gear or cog with exclamation mark in the middle.

The car won't go over 3rd gear, when I stop the car and power it off and then on the error goes away and the car seems to be driving like normal.

I have 118,000 kms on it and it is a 2009 Canadian model 335d.

This issue has happened three times now, I have scheduled an appointment with the dealer but the next available appointment is March 11th. The problem doesn't happen everyday, maybe once a week.

The problem does not seem to occur at all on low speeds, ie under 80km/hr.

Also just yesterday I noticed an unusual smell coming from the vents when the heating was on that smelt like burned coolant, but I checked coolant levels and they were fine. The smell has gone away since but this morning I started hearing a weird rattling sound that wasn't there before.

My car is out of warranty but just wondering if anyone has experienced any similar issues with their 335ds.

Can we get automatic transmission fluid replaced in our cars?

I hope its nothing major

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I recently started having this problem, at highway speeds when the car downshifts it suddenly goes into limp mode with a yellow warning symbol that looks like a gear or cog with exclamation mark in the middle.
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Can we get automatic transmission fluid replaced in our cars?

I hope its nothing major
You can get the fluid replaced. Worth a try as it's "only" around $500 to do so.

But, the transmission is probably toast: $3500 + labor (or more.)
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      02-20-2014, 10:54 AM   #3
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Depending on what the issue is. It could be the transmission control module not working properly or the solenoids, get it diagnosed first.
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      02-20-2014, 12:08 PM   #4
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Hi,

I recently started having this problem, at highway speeds when the car downshifts it suddenly goes into limp mode with a yellow warning symbol that looks like a gear or cog with exclamation mark in the middle.

The car won't go over 3rd gear, when I stop the car and power it off and then on the error goes away and the car seems to be driving like normal.

I have 118,000 kms on it and it is a 2009 Canadian model 335d.

This issue has happened three times now, I have scheduled an appointment with the dealer but the next available appointment is March 11th. The problem doesn't happen everyday, maybe once a week.

The problem does not seem to occur at all on low speeds, ie under 80km/hr.

Also just yesterday I noticed an unusual smell coming from the vents when the heating was on that smelt like burned coolant, but I checked coolant levels and they were fine. The smell has gone away since but this morning I started hearing a weird rattling sound that wasn't there before.

My car is out of warranty but just wondering if anyone has experienced any similar issues with their 335ds.

Can we get automatic transmission fluid replaced in our cars?

I hope its nothing major

Thanks for reading

BMW335D
118,000 kms (73,000 miles) isn't excessive. Perhaps you have some electronics stuff happening. Here is a link to aplace that knows alot about our ZF transmissions. There is a component called mechatronic (sp?) that might be squirreling out on you. They also sell fluid change kits if you are a DIY kind of guy.
Best of luck
http://www.thectsc.com/images/pdf/th...eplacement.pdf
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      02-20-2014, 01:37 PM   #5
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Could also be carbon build up.

Where are you located?
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owners manual has a section on all of the instrument panel/cluster lights. It shows the shapes too I believe. Hopefully not CBU, though.
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How old is the battery? Remember strange electrical things happen when they are not getting proper volts and amps. Old batteries create all sorts of gremlins.
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After battery id go new trans fluid and reset. If you are driving fine at low speeds its much more unlikely to be a mechanical trans issue than if you have problems at low speed. Lots more torque multiplication in the trans at low speed.
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Could also be carbon build up.

Where are you located?
I'm in Markham

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How old is the battery? Remember strange electrical things happen when they are not getting proper volts and amps. Old batteries create all sorts of gremlins.
I had the battery replaced last week, seemed to work fine after but problem happened again this week.

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Could also be carbon build up.

Where are you located?
I had my friend diagnose it and the following code showed up:

4F85 Ration Monitoring Clutch E

This morning I noticed another problem, I heard an unusual rumbling in the engine and noticed the crankshaft pulley has a little play in it.

I'm going to attach a video to show what's happening, please see this link on youtube:



After noticing this issue I decided to take the car to the closest BMW dealer, Town & Country in Markham, they initially said March 11th for a service appointment but when I spoke to the service advisor i have dealt with in the past he said he'll try and have it looked at by 2morrow ..

My friend also cleared the transmission error so the service guy said they will try to reproduce it but main thing they will try to address is the crank shaft
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Sounds that you're getting this resolved. I asked where you're located because I was gonna come check your faults for you but that's covered too!
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The dealer called me today, 1595+HST to replace the crank Pulley + belt.

They said the belt had cracks in it.

They couldn't reproduce the yellow gear warning sign, you think it might be related?
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Is the crank pulley really bent? How would that even happen? The video looked more like crankshaft end play to me, wandering seemed way to slow to be the pulley
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Turns out the crank pulley had a crack in it, so they replaced that and the belts and everything seems to be fine now, its been two weeks
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Brad, was your vehicle ever involved in a frontal accident? That's the only thing I could imagine that would damage a crank pulley.
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The transmission issue came back but last time I went to the dealer they checked the car and nothing was wrong with it, anyhow they sold me an extended warranty.

3 years / 60,000km for $3100+tax.

Not bad, I think the tranny is gone so hopefully they will give me a new one, i'll go back when the warning comes again.

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