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      11-24-2012, 07:44 PM   #1
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AA tune for 328 = 330i

Raced a stock 330i today and was dead even. Mods on my car are minimal - BMW PE + Afe dry filter (not a whole intake).

That equates to (using caveman logic without factoring in gearing and other factors) a 25bhp increase. Not bad.
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from a dig? roll? all the same?

you 6mt or auto? how about the 330?
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from a dig? roll? all the same?

you 6mt or auto? how about the 330?
From a roll starting at 60 or 70, I forget. 6AT's on both
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From a roll starting at 60 or 70, I forget. 6AT's on both
thats pretty nice. I wonder about a dig now because i'm debating it
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From a roll it should be even as the hp takes over (AA tune unlocks that hp up top).

But from a dig, I don't think a 328 will have the torque needed to get that jump (without a 3 stage).

I was able to keep up with a 330 from dig with my mods (was actually ahead at the end)


Nicely done btw :-)
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sorry for my ignorance but whats a "BMW PE"?
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BMW Performance Exhaust
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I did a few 0-60 runs last night with a friend on the stopwatch. My car is an auto and obviously the timer wasn't 100% accurate.

Full stop no throttle 6.33 seconds
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Max rpm without wheel spin (~3.5k) 5.69 seconds

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BMW Penis Enlarger.
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It works.
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BMW Penis Enlarger.
TOO FUNNY!
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hahahahaha gold!
I raced a 330 a few weeks back and it was weirdly even as well. From a dig, I caught my fender in front and he caught up even quick. After a while, I started to pass her and her mods are: magnaflow muffler with res delete, k&n drop in filter and she also had fresh spark plugs (not a mod.. more or less maintenance) NO tune or piggy back. I have 2ndary cat delete, res delete and hks muffler with a drop in filter and subs in trunk (for added weight on rear tires to grip) NO tune or piggy back either. It was from a dig to 100 and the end was me leading by a hair line. Weird? O.o both had about half a tank of gas too and I had uhp tires vs. her A/S rft. I'm 6mt and she's AT
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hahahahaha gold!
subs in trunk (for added weight on rear tires to grip)
yea right.... For me it's pretty close with my 325i and my brothers 330i. But I'm almost a car length in front to 100 mph, his car is stock. What messes me up is when I shift too late because of the raised RPM limit, there's actually a lot less power at that range. But a least it sounds good when the engine revs that high.
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yea right.... For me it's pretty close with my 325i and my brothers 330i. But I'm almost a car length in front to 100 mph, his car is stock. What messes me up is when I shift too late because of the raised RPM limit, there's actually a lot less power at that range. But a least it sounds good when the engine revs that high.
Hahaha the subs in the trunk are what I tell people XD people seem to believe it but we all know why I have subs in the trunk lol. Its weird how they stopped making the 330 though :/ I wish they had it in LCI and coupes (like euro countries). I'm actually surprised that we are so close but I'm unsure why... if I had a choice, id get the 330 because of the 3 stage manifold and the valve in the exhaust to hold back pressure. The 328 doesn't seem to be that bad though I usually beat all the 328 and 330 around me... maybe because most are auto? I'm not sure if that makes a big difference or not? I always get the snap on them and even towards some 335's(turbo lag?) Who knows O.O
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if I had a choice, id get the 330 because of the 3 stage manifold and the valve in the exhaust to hold back pressure. The 328 doesn't seem to be that bad though I usually beat all the 328 and 330 around me... maybe because most are auto? I'm not sure if that makes a big difference or not? I always get the snap on them and even towards some 335's(turbo lag?) Who knows O.O
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it that 328s in California uses the SULEV engine(AKA N51) which has a 3 stage due to different emissions?? IIRC, only difference is that the 328s are detuned so the 3 stage isn't at its full potential, and that a tune would solve this.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it that 328s in California uses the SULEV engine(AKA N51) which has a 3 stage due to different emissions?? IIRC, only difference is that the 328s are detuned so the 3 stage isn't at its full potential, and that a tune would solve this.
Hmmm +1 to this... I also heard the same but idk either...
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The intake manifold part number are the exact same---> 11617559523 (330i) 11617559523 (328i)
I'm starting to love california's emissions law just a little bit
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Did a quick search to confirm about the n51/SULEV:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34273

Also went on realoem.com and compared the manifold part #, turns out its the same.

Only real question now is: will the AA tune max out the 328s' power to match a 330??
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