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      11-17-2012, 02:12 AM   #1
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08 335i vs 09 Roush Mustang stage 3...who would win?

I have a 08 335i with just a procede tune. He has I think a 09 Roush Mustang stage 3. I'm not 100% sure if it is a stage 1,2, or 3. But for the sake of argument lets say it is a stage 3. I pretty sure it is stock whatever stage it is though. So I heard through the great vine he was saying he would spank my car in a race. I think I may take him but it would be close...I'm not sure though. What's funny is I have a Helix FMIC and a Vishnu DCI sitting in my room but I have procrastinated forever to go get a baseline and then go get it all installed. I think if I had all that on I would win for sure but seeing as I don't right now...Has anyone raced one and if so what mods did you have when you won/lost. I would appreciate any comments.

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Simple answer...google a stage 3 1/4 times dyno runs etc and you should be able to tell.
Stage 3 is supercharged right?
I have a friend with an 06 gt vortech supercharger makes 420whp....all depends on his mods
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Simple answer...google a stage 3 1/4 times dyno runs etc and you should be able to tell.
Stage 3 is supercharged right?
I have a friend with an 06 gt vortech supercharger makes 420whp....all depends on his mods
I have done some research already...stage 3 is supercharged and they run about mid to high 13s in the 1/4 mile, 0-60 ranged from 4.5-5.0 from what I saw, with 430hp 400tq, and curb weight is 3700-3800. And I am almost positive he is stock. But I wanted to know if anyone had any first hand experience with one.
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It'll be close, but just to make sure I'd throw on the downpipes. My friend has the same roush as yours, I went for a ride in it and was not impressed. :
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The next time I see him will be on thanksgiving...I'm going to try and set up a turkey day race and ill go pro it if I remember to bring the camera.
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Funny I came across this thread. My best friend actually has an 07 roush stage 3 and I've ridden in that car numerous times. Much better overall car than the gt500 since Roush goes through the trouble of changing pretty much everything from the standard mustang. It's rated at 415hp and 385tq but I definitely think its underrated. Feels more like 450hp/420tq. We always talk shit between each other at who's car is faster. Right now I'm pretty sure he'd beat me but I think I'll take him once I go FBO.
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So I worked with him today and I started asking him questions of what his Roush actually all had done. So this is what he says...It's a 07 stage 2 Roush with a 588 engine swap, (said he did it himself...first red flag this kid can and doesn't change his own oil.) 650 rwhp, says he runs low 8ths and high 7's if he has good tires in the 1/4 mile. I call bullshit I think it's a stage 2 stock Roush. There is no way a Roush mustang with 650 rwhp is running those times in a quarter. He also says he won't race me cuz he doesn't want a ticket. Maybe believable but I'm calling bullshit. We have a good remote straight road that we can put cars at each end for cops and traffic. I know there is an actual 588r create engine made by Roush but it costing 20k and I doubt he has it. Idk I guess I'll never know but he talks a lot of trash and won't back any of it up.
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Find a nearby (legal) dragstrip. Tell him to put up or shut up.

And yeah, go the DP/FMIC/E85 route just to be sure.
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yeah...he has that ricer mentality where they make up shit when they never seen or touched the ground on a track
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Stop wasting your time with this guy.
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That guy makes my head hurt. Mustang mentality....
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This guy is a giant douche! I don't see why he is so afraid of just a tuned 335i especially when he has "650rwhp." I honestly think he saw the block online and decided that's what he wants to do but can't afford and definitely doesn't have it already. Maybe he just puts big numbers out there thinking no one would dare run against his car for how much he talks it up. I told him I just wanted to do some pulls just to see were I stood but in think he and I both know if we race his stock stage 2 he will see the back of my tail lights and he won't be able to claim 650 anymore.
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Subscribed, Friend has an 09 stage 3 rouche as well and claims its a bimmer killer. I call BS, and have been trying to run him for a while but he also pulls the same BS. Ill post here with the results (Im DCI, JB4)
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mustang owners that don't know anything about cars all act that way. he will never show you a dyno, he will never race you and everyone will think he has the fastest car in the world because they too are stupid. i suggest you just leave it be, or publicly put him on blast. if it's a stock 4.6L mustang and you have a procede tune, you'll beat him. 650whp in a mustang doesn't go mid 7s in the 1/4, that's like 1500+hp.
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So I worked with him today and I started asking him questions of what his Roush actually all had done. So this is what he says...It's a 07 stage 2 Roush with a 588 engine swap, (said he did it himself...first red flag this kid can and doesn't change his own oil.) 650 rwhp, says he runs low 8ths and high 7's if he has good tires in the 1/4 mile. I call bullshit I think it's a stage 2 stock Roush. There is no way a Roush mustang with 650 rwhp is running those times in a quarter. He also says he won't race me cuz he doesn't want a ticket. Maybe believable but I'm calling bullshit. We have a good remote straight road that we can put cars at each end for cops and traffic. I know there is an actual 588r create engine made by Roush but it costing 20k and I doubt he has it. Idk I guess I'll never know but he talks a lot of trash and won't back any of it up.
Does his mustang sounds like it has a stroker motor? You pull next to my modified 07 Charger, and you will hear and feel the engine. Anyone who spends that much money wouldn't be worry about tickets. He's full of sssh... My .02.
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Would a 650hp 09 mustang even run 9's? They are fat pigs.
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Through in some e85 and you'll pull him
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Well you know he is lying because there is no mustang with 650 rwhp that will run 9s much less 8s or even 7s haha.
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