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      02-09-2010, 12:04 AM   #1
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Just wondering what everyone is getting for 60-100 times? Please list mods and octane. Ive been getting consistent 4.5's -stage 3 on 93 octane.
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Just wondering what everyone is getting for 60-100 times? Please list mods and octane. Ive been getting consistent 4.5's -stage 3 on 93 octane.
How is this being recorded?
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How is this being recorded?
Dynolicious..prob not 100% accurate but close enough for me to compare to others..
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Dynolicious..prob not 100% accurate but close enough for me to compare to others..
I don't know how accurate that is but there's a couple things to consider.

The slope of the road has a lot to with the times and that's why a Vbox is a great measuring device.

For example, Divexxtreme has a list of 60-130 times and you need to send the Vbox run to him for analysis. He looks at the elevetion drop and if you are more than 3% grade then you don't make the list.

All this said and done, I personally think that 4.5 is a great time.
Some use the speed sensor to calculate their acceleration results but i did that and I had a 60-100 in 2.7 seconds LOL! So, I know that's not accurate.
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I don't know how accurate that is but there's a couple things to consider.

The slope of the road has a lot to with the times and that's why a Vbox is a great measuring device.

For example, Divexxtreme has a list of 60-130 times and you need to send the Vbox run to him for analysis. He looks at the elevetion drop and if you are more than 3% grade then you don't make the list.

All this said and done, I personally think that 4.5 is a great time.
Some use the speed sensor to calculate their acceleration results but i did that and I had a 60-100 in 2.7 seconds LOL! So, I know that's not accurate.
If speed sensor data is accurate to measure change in speed with respect to time, then either your speed isn't calibrated correctly, your sample rate is too slow or your time stamps are off. It's really that simple.
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I don't know how accurate that is but there's a couple things to consider.

The slope of the road has a lot to with the times and that's why a Vbox is a great measuring device.

For example, Divexxtreme has a list of 60-130 times and you need to send the Vbox run to him for analysis. He looks at the elevetion drop and if you are more than 3% grade then you don't make the list.

All this said and done, I personally think that 4.5 is a great time.
Some use the speed sensor to calculate their acceleration results but i did that and I had a 60-100 in 2.7 seconds LOL! So, I know that's not accurate.
is there an easy way to calculate grade? I have a road by my house that is very flat (as far as I can tell) that I do 60-100 tests on but I dont know the exact grade of it.
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is there an easy way to calculate grade? I have a road by my house that is very flat (as far as I can tell) that I do 60-100 tests on but I dont know the exact grade of it.
Get a big level.

There are no level roads around here. Just try and do the best and find one that looks level.
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Some use the speed sensor to calculate their acceleration results but i did that and I had a 60-100 in 2.7 seconds LOL! So, I know that's not accurate.
A speed sensor is ultimately going to be the most accurate as it is a direct measurement of mechanical speed. If it is off, it is due to the time domain being off or the scaling being off.

The most accurate thing we can measure is time.
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I do 4.65 with Procede V4 Stage 1+ on 91 octane with ignition correction at 75%.

I have only Forge DV and Injen Intake.

I will add that I have done this at -10C so heatsoak is not a problem even if I don't have FMIC. My IAT are around 65-70F 13.6 psi and 5500 rpm most of the time in this season.
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I will add a few of my runs later when I get access to them but my best run has been 4.14 secs (tune+dci) on the road that i mentioned before.
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To get a close to perfect reading 60-100 or 0-60 as i do

To get a true reading on a not to sure road do the test both directions and average.....this takes out prevailing winds and slope..give a more accurate if not accurate reading......
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4.37 sec. V4 Stage 1, 93 octane, 29F; based on Procede log.
That's WOT before hitting 60MPH, as opposed to cruising at 60MPH and then going WOT.
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Somewhere around 2.8 - 3.2 seconds. It all depends on whether or not I am running the matte black grills or not! I mean after all I am in a stock 330!
The only people on this forum to beat me thus far at the 60-100 is Rev on his Unicorn and Kevin on his sons new PW50! Outside of this, I own this town! Oh yah and Jerry will fly by me once we hit an altitude of 200 meters when hitting said pot hole in parking garage at 80 mph!
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Yeah its tough to determine the grade of the road..i have done 10+ runs though on what I perceived to be flat roads and all are very close..I thought 4.5 was good as well, but seeing the posts from people running the procede makes me wonder how they are all getting better times with similar, or less mods..


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I don't know how accurate that is but there's a couple things to consider.

The slope of the road has a lot to with the times and that's why a Vbox is a great measuring device.

For example, Divexxtreme has a list of 60-130 times and you need to send the Vbox run to him for analysis. He looks at the elevetion drop and if you are more than 3% grade then you don't make the list.

All this said and done, I personally think that 4.5 is a great time.
Some use the speed sensor to calculate their acceleration results but i did that and I had a 60-100 in 2.7 seconds LOL! So, I know that's not accurate.
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What tune; what are you using to measure?


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I will add a few of my runs later when I get access to them but my best run has been 4.14 secs (tune+dci) on the road that i mentioned before.
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What tune; what are you using to measure?
procede, using the procede datalogs. I am running a slightly higher than suggested map though (although I have calibrated it to the point where I have no detonation)

btw I am going to post them (the logs) later tonight
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On my stock 135i the procede v3 logged speeds are 4% higher than gps indication. This means a big mistake in 60-100 calculation if not properly corrected (at least 0.4s lower times respect to real figures).
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On my stock 135i the procede v3 logged speeds are 4% higher than gps indication. This means a big mistake in 60-100 calculation if not properly corrected (at least 0.4s lower times respect to real figures).
If the Procede's default roadspeed calibrations were 4% high on your particular car, you'd be measuring ~58 to 96mph which is 38mph of acceleration instead of 40mph. How did you calculate the 0.4s error?

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On my stock 135i the procede v3 logged speeds are 4% higher than gps indication. This means a big mistake in 60-100 calculation if not properly corrected (at least 0.4s lower times respect to real figures).
This is interesting.
The next time I try my Vbox 60-100 runs, I'll also measure my 57 to 97 and see what I get in comparison.
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If the Procede's default roadspeed calibrations were 4% high on your particular car, you'd be measuring ~58 to 96mph which is 38mph of acceleration instead of 40mph. How did you calculate the 0.4s error?

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By considering that a tune only car performs the 60-100 pass in 5s (mine did something similar) this means an average of 0.125s for each mph.
Of course the mph in the three digits range are A LOT tougher to achieve respect to the first ones... so we can keep things simple and say that in order to gain the missing 4mph from 96 to 100 are needed... suspance...

0.125*4=0.5s

This is from 'math for dummies' course. In fact I logged the same tests with both my professional vbox 100hz and procede v3 and then I compared the results from both systems.

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