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      09-14-2015, 11:56 PM   #1
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Alignment Issue [Toe] - H&R Sport

Hi guys,

I just installed some H&R Sport Springs on my E92 with Sport Struts. I went to Firestone this morning to get an alignment and every wheel went into spec aside from the driver rear tire. They said it is maxed out at 1.09 degrees of toe which is a ton.

Nothing is bent, everything was installed correctly, but would tightening the sway bar end link or strut bolt cause any of this to happen? I just find it odd that the passenger rear adjusted fine, but the driver rear is maxed out at a crazy degree for toe.

The service advisor suggested I get adjustable toe rods/arms, which I may have to and is not a problem, but I'm more confused on how the passenger side adjusted within spec, but the driver side did not. I'm not a suspension guru, so apologies for any ignorance here, but input would be appreciated.

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Go to another alignment shop.
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      09-15-2015, 08:24 AM   #3
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Could a bushing be to blame?
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I'm not sure what could be to blame. I'm going to jack it up and take a look at the alignment of the toe arm and see if it moves anymore or not.

I get lifetime alignments at Firestone, so I'm really hoping they missed something and I don't need to buy new toe rods. Lol.
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      09-16-2015, 06:20 PM   #5
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Something is definitely bent.

I ended up buying Manzo adjustable toe arms when I had similar issues. I've had them for nearly 20k miles now. No issues.
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Hey DB,

Thanks for the reply. Read your other post about these. Where did you order them?
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Where did you order them?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manzo-M2-Rea...3D151320919271

You won't find them cheaper than that!
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^ those are trailing arms, not toe correct? I saw the ad for toe arms, but something was odd. One listing was $129 and out of stock. Another listing was $118 and in stock, from the same seller. Lol. Asked a question to make sure it was the toe arm that is stocked.
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^ those are trailing arms, not toe correct? I saw the ad for toe arms, but something was odd. One listing was $129 and out of stock. Another listing was $118 and in stock, from the same seller. Lol. Asked a question to make sure it was the toe arm that is stocked.
yes, I was looking at both myself and copy-pasted the wrong link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manzo-2pc-Re...4a173a&vxp=mtr
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Ahh. Those are only for the M3. I have an N54 E92 ;(. Got excited haha. Anyone heard a review of Godspeed Toe Arms? They look identical to Manzo/Megan.
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Ahh. Those are only for the M3. I have an N54 E92 ;(. Got excited haha. Anyone heard a review of Godspeed Toe Arms? They look identical to Manzo/Megan.
They are adjustable so it would work although listed for M3. The subframe on all e9x is the same. On the M3 the upright is different and require the toe arm to be little longer. Since these are adjustable that is non issue.

This is what I heard in JDM circles: Hardrace make all of these. Basically the gen 1 is Megan and when they revise it and come up with gen 2 the gen 1 will be sold as Manzo, when gen 3 comes out the gen 1 becomes God Speed and gen 2 will be Manzo.
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Yup I have those exact same ones. Solved all my toe issues (tire wear and dogtracking on acceleration).
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Yup I have those exact same ones. Solved all my toe issues (tire wear and dogtracking on acceleration).
Now with the LSD you need lock diff and the rear will be impeccable
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Perfect, thanks for the help guys! The should be here Tuesday in which I'll install them and get re-aligned and will post back the results. Thanks again.
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Replaced the factory toe arms with aftermarket adjustable toe arms and toe is now within spec. All resolved!
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