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      09-09-2013, 02:58 PM   #1
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Volkswagen Confirms Development of Twin-Turbo Diesel Four-Cylinder

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We understand that this engine will produce somewhere in the realm of 230 horsepower, as well as great bucketfuls of torque. Development is being undertaken with the brandís MQB architecture in mind. We expect VW will use this mill in the Golf, where it likely will sit atop the all-but-confirmed-for-exportation-to-America GTD as an R-badged model, akin to the relationship between the GTI and the Golf R. Similarly, Audi could use this engine for an S3 TDI. (The four-ringed brand currently slots a twin-turbo V-6 into the SQ5 TDI performance crossover in Europe.)


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      09-09-2013, 03:15 PM   #2
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This is gonna be interesting.
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      09-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #3
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doesn't matter, its a VW so it will be front wheel drive (terrible choice with all the torque) or AWD. Neither which I will buy...
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dont the R models usually have AWD? Yeah if it was FWD with a "performance" diesel that would be a joke, but AWD can be pretty well executed. They do have Audi to rely on so making the AWD good should be easy
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dont the R models usually have AWD? Yeah if it was FWD with a "performance" diesel that would be a joke, but AWD can be pretty well executed. They do have Audi to rely on so making the AWD good should be easy
I agree. Nothing wrong at all with an AWD diesel.
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Hopefully they will add rear wheel drive with an electric motor to the Golf.

I miss my Golf TDI sometimes. I could carry so much crap in back. I liked the front seats too.
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      09-09-2013, 08:16 PM   #7
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dont the R models usually have AWD? Yeah if it was FWD with a "performance" diesel that would be a joke, but AWD can be pretty well executed. They do have Audi to rely on so making the AWD good should be easy
AWD performance diesel would be tons of fun. I always thought the mid 2000s r32s felt more like an Audi than the A3 (or maybe even the a4s of the era)...certainly more like an Audi than a VW.
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I hope they can keep the weight down. VW seems to have an uncanny ability to pack 10 lbs of weight into a 5 lb box
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      09-10-2013, 06:15 AM   #9
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yes amigo Rotor AUDI is the MASTER of 4x4 specifically in DIESELS, remember the have won somewhat like 10 out of 15 Lemans races with QUATTRO and Diesels, so I would buy one cause the torque numbers would be almost at par as our I6 twin turbo DIESEL
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that engine won't make it over here. The neat engines, in recent years anyways, don't come over here (PD150, 1.4 Twin charged, V12 tdi, 3 cyl tdi). We just got the 5.0 V10 tdi that might be able to pull a 747, but that's about it.
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BMW has had a Twin-Turbo Diesel Four-Cylinder engine for years now(since 2007) called the: 123d model for e8x(e82/e87/e81) cars in Germany.



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more info here(in German)...
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The GTD will possibly be my next purchase if the 335d goes south between now and end of the 50k/4 years. That would be May 2016, although my mileage is outstripping the calendar at the moment.

On a side note, I just filled up the tank and got 30.1 mpg. Not too spectacular except it included an hour and 40 minutes at the Shenandoah Circuit. And although I am a rank amateur, the D was earning its stripes.
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Hopefully they will add rear wheel drive with an electric motor to the Golf.

I miss my Golf TDI sometimes. I could carry so much crap in back. I liked the front seats too.
x2 on the Golf TDI. I had a 2002 5-Speed Manual, Four Door. Fun as he'll to drive and capable of 50 MPG when driving the speed limit.

My sister-in-law still drives it daily with over 240,000 miles on that 1.9 liter HEUI Turbo Diesel.

My point is, don't doubt VAG where TDI is concerned.
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The GTD will possibly be my next purchase if the 335d goes south between now and end of the 50k/4 years. That would be May 2016, although my mileage is outstripping the calendar at the moment.

On a side note, I just filled up the tank and got 30.1 mpg. Not too spectacular except it included an hour and 40 minutes at the Shenandoah Circuit. And although I am a rank amateur, the D was earning its stripes.
Did you ever update any of your posts with track impressions of your mods?
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The GTD will possibly be my next purchase if the 335d goes south between now and end of the 50k/4 years. That would be May 2016, although my mileage is outstripping the calendar at the moment.

On a side note, I just filled up the tank and got 30.1 mpg. Not too spectacular except it included an hour and 40 minutes at the Shenandoah Circuit. And although I am a rank amateur, the D was earning its stripes.
Did you ever update any of your posts with track impressions of your mods?
Only to the speed shop that did the work and to one of their other clients who mentored me when I was deciding what to do. I'll post something separately.
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