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      05-04-2011, 10:28 PM   #1
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e93 top how to close manually

alright guys i need some major help my e93 335 got hit from the back and now the top wont come down i need a way to make it come down manually any help here, its like locked in place or something the body shop and mechanic shops cant figure out how to get the top down, is there like a spot were u can screw it out from being locked or something
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      05-04-2011, 10:35 PM   #2
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that's not a very good body shop now is it?
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      05-04-2011, 10:50 PM   #3
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I could have sworn I saw instructions in the manual about manually opening it.
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i'm sure you can't manually move the hard top...MAYBE soft top...
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that's not a very good body shop now is it?
to be honest it wasnt only 1 bodys hop it was a couple of them and then a couple of bmw techs
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I could have sworn I saw instructions in the manual about manually opening it.
i think that was for the sunroof =( i read it to i didn't find anything about the top it self it only showed stuff about the sunroof whitch i dont understand why they would but that in the e93 manual
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I owned an E93. One thing that was both scary and cool is how complex the roof is. It wouldn't take much body tweaking to make the roof inoperable. And I can't imagine how much it would cost to fix it once the car is damaged.

Why in the world would you want to open the top if the car is damaged? You might never be able to get it closed again. There are clearly belt-driven mechanisms in the roof. I don't see how you'd be able to 'force' it short of disassembling the entire roof.

I wouldn't touch the roof until the body damage is dealt with.
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      05-05-2011, 05:07 AM   #8
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there are 32 sensors in the roof alone, something like 70 overall for the mechanism. Any manual intervention would damage the sensors. The roof + Sensors are near $3500 - $4000. Then there is no easy manual way of doing it, bmw engineers know the tricks so they should deal with it.
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      05-05-2011, 06:11 AM   #9
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that's not a very good body shop now is it?
That was my first thought as well. Go to a body shop that is familiar with E93s.

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there are 32 sensors in the roof alone, something like 70 overall for the mechanism. Any manual intervention would damage the sensors. The roof + Sensors are near $3500 - $4000. Then there is no easy manual way of doing it, bmw engineers know the tricks so they should deal with it.
From what I've read, at least in the US, replacing the origami top costs waaaaaaaay more than that, it needs to be shipped from Germany as an assembly and requires a special jig to install! (The stories make me queasy about just having a BMW sunroof!) +10000 on not letting a shop that isn't familiar with the top anywhere near it.
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      05-05-2011, 11:23 PM   #11
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hey

not sure how accurate this is since i dont own a e93 but ppl have had success by removing the plug form two modules that run the smarttop. Removing the plugs resets the top and some have had success with this method. THis link has a comfort access installation procedure but some have used it for gaining access to at least one of the modules for resetting purposes.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...story+smarttop

if that doesnt work, then u might have a failed sensor which is also somewhat common but costs $500-$1000/sensor and labor from stealership.

goodluck, hope this helps
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There is no manual way to open/close the retractable hardtop. And FYI, the replacement cost of the entire roof (should the whole thing need to be replaced) is just under $17,000--and that's *before* labor!
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e93 roof

did you find a way?
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      10-29-2012, 10:27 AM   #14
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There is no manual way to open/close the retractable hardtop. And FYI, the replacement cost of the entire roof (should the whole thing need to be replaced) is just under $17,000--and that's *before* labor!
I'm not meaning to jack this thread but I imagine there will be some after market options for those who need to replace their tops without spending a fortune and going the OEM route. Maybe a manual soft top option or even a detachable hard top shell? You guys think the E93 could be fitted with something cheap and easy like this later on in its life? Just curious what others think....

It would be difficult for anyone, regardless of how deep their pockets are, owning a high mileage E93 and spending $17,000+ to have the fancy top working again.
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      10-30-2012, 11:12 PM   #15
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To echo prior posts, why do want the top down given that you may not be able to get it back up?

If you are asking can I continue to operate the top without having it fixed that's a big stretch. I think you need to either have it fixed by a BMW dealer or accept the fact that your vert is now a coupe.

PS: To address another prior post the top doesn't have any belts, it is all operated with hydraulics driven by electric motors.
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There is no manual way to open/close the retractable hardtop. And FYI, the replacement cost of the entire roof (should the whole thing need to be replaced) is just under $17,000--and that's *before* labor!
wrong, check my thread on m3post
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wrong, check my thread on m3post
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wrong, check my thread on m3post
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