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      11-14-2014, 01:13 AM   #1
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Doing my build-Vargas 2+ Did I miss anything?

Ok so I've been planning and plotting to take over the world, and build a mean e93. Her name is going to be the Beast.
Did a factory delivery of a 2008 artic white/saddle 335i e93 with manual trans and every option except Idrive, active steering, and winter package.
A few years ago I added:
BMW front and rear bumpers, side skirts
Laser Interceptor Jammers
Hard wired a Garmin and Passport
15% tint all windows.
Juicebox 3.

So now with 200,000 miles the turbos crapped out, I went to trade in for a 2009 M3 e93 with 40,000 miles, Stealer said give me your car and $850 a month for 5 yrs and you can have it. No way. My car body, interior, etc is perfect. Looks like 10,000 miles. So I decided to spend half of what they asked and make an M3, and just about everything else, killer.

I decided to do it in stages.

Stage one was to install:
Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires 235/35-19 front, 275/30-19 rear
Breyton rims 19x8.5 front, 19x9.5 rear
A JL touring carbon fiber rear wing
Black and white carbon fiber roundels
Clear reflectors
VRSF 7" FMIC with aluminum downpipes
Juicebox 4 G5 with 2 step module
New oem water pump, radiator, PCV valve
Smart Top module
Cree 80w angel eyes

Stage two will be installed 11/18:
Stoptech drilled and slotted rotors, pads
Valve cover gasket
Head gasket
Walnut blast head
NGK plugs
Oil filter gasket
Compression test cylinders, check coils and injectors

Stage 3 will be first week of December
Vargas stage 2+ turbos with 9 blade Garrett clipped turbos, 6x6 billet compressor, 20T drive gear
Motiv Dual disc clutch and flywheel
VRSF charge pipe
VRSF catless downpipes
Boost addictions rear diff lockdown
BMS clutch valve and clutch stop

Stage 4 will be first week of January
KW V2 with 1" drop
M3 front swing arms
Subframe bushings type TBD
MFactory LSD 3.08
Cobb V3 with Motiv/PTF tune
Motiv fuel rail or Vargas Double Shotgun TBD
Fuel-It stage 3 LPFP

So that s the plan. Did I miss anything?
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Sounds like one hell of a plan
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Look like a solid plan. However, I would suggest doing the suspension mods before the turbos. You'll be able to enjoy the power a lot more.
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Look like a solid plan. However, I would suggest doing the suspension mods before the turbos. You'll be able to enjoy the power a lot more.
I agree but initially I had intended to do just stage 2 turbos and that was it. I had paid for them but before he built them he announced stage2+ and gave me the option to upgrade. I decided to go for it but as finances were couldn't do all in one shot. Turbos were paid for already so I focused on parts necessary to make them work first and maintenance parts. Hence the upgrade progression.
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195 views and no more comments. Guess I hit all the right stuff?
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Sounds like a solid plan....don't forget to update us on the progress. GL
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Are you at all worried about the integrity of a 200k motor with all these mods?
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Are you at all worried about the integrity of a 200k motor with all these mods?
I am curious about this as well. Please keep us updated throughout your build! These motors are tough and 200k miles with 500+whp will be very interesting.
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No not really. They take about 100k to break in and I'm having it compression tested. Most stuff is new. Everything but block, internals which are forged, and head which is being walnut blasted for the first time. It's mostly 3,000 rpm highway miles, 95%. Call it seasoned. Lol
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Pretty much looks good to me. Think about waterpump while turbos are out -even though mine is currently working well I'm doing mine again at turbo install because it ends up being the cost of a waterpump plus about an hour of labor in lieu of starting from scratch. Same deal with engine motor mounts.

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Look like a solid plan. However, I would suggest doing the suspension mods before the turbos. You'll be able to enjoy the power a lot more.
+1 thats what i'm doing
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I'd update your front subframe and motor mounts with is version. Plus maybe m3 suspension bits. Plus RB PVC upgrades and new bushings when doing diff lock down brace.
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I run the same tires. You will easily spin them with the power you will have in second and 3rd gear (3rd gear depending on the outside temperature). I am not saying that PSS s are bad by no means but R compound tires will definitely work better with the power level you are looking forward to achieve.
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Pretty much looks good to me. Think about waterpump while turbos are out -even though mine is currently working well I'm doing mine again at turbo install because it ends up being the cost of a waterpump plus about an hour of labor in lieu of starting from scratch. Same deal with engine motor mounts.

Good luck!
Absolutely this!

Water pump/thermostat and motor/transmission mounts for sure.
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Lets' see some pics of your car with wheels and other stuff. I wanna see what your valves look like too after 200k miles.....
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Stage 1 should be all Maintenance:
All gaskets listed, walnut blast, water pump, plugs, compression test, coils, injectors, and bling
Oil Catch Can after walnut blast as a good preventive measure

Stage 2 should be all drivetrain:
M3 Swing Arms, Clutch/flywheel, subframe bushings, wheels, brakes, suspension, LSD and LSD lock down, then get corner balancing, this is more important than most people realize.

Stage 3 should be all supporting mods:
Fuel Pumps, IC, CP, tune

Then stage 4 should be the final turbo + downpipes:

Other notes:
Do the intercooler and charge pipe together (but no meth?)

Instead of Cobb, go G5 ISO + back end flash, a believe Terry wrote a custom tune for Vargas Stage 2+ (You would need a cable to do BMS back end flash)

I think fuel it stage 3 (dual Walbro 450) is overkill, the stage 2 has a single 450. Unless you are doing some insane ST setup trying to support 800whp on pure E85, then stage 2 is all that’s needed.

“NGK plugs” OEM? I would get one step colder plugs from a Mini Copper S
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Lets' see some pics of your car with wheels and other stuff. I wanna see what your valves look like too after 200k miles.....
I second the valve pics!
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Stage 1 should be all Maintenance:
All gaskets listed, walnut blast, water pump, plugs, compression test, coils, injectors, and bling
Oil Catch Can after walnut blast as a good preventive measure

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M3 Swing Arms, Clutch/flywheel, subframe bushings, wheels, brakes, suspension, LSD and LSD lock down, then get corner balancing, this is more important than most people realize.

Stage 3 should be all supporting mods:
Fuel Pumps, IC, CP, tune

Then stage 4 should be the final turbo + downpipes:
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Doing subframe bushings with the LSD. Did water pump 3,000 miles ago. First time. Doing engine mounts and trans mounts with turbos. Can't afford suspension for 1 month. Then it's done too. I'm
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I run the same tires. You will easily spin them with the power you will have in second and 3rd gear (3rd gear depending on the outside temperature). I am not saying that PSS s are bad by no means but R compound tires will definitely work better with the power level you are looking forward to achieve.
I need to use this for daily driving. 50,000 a year. Can't use r compound tires
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Steve from fuel-it recommended the stage 3, Tony is using it in his. No meth but going to run 100% e85. It's cheaper and the pump is 2 miles from my house.
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Definitely doin valve pics
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