E90Post
 


European Auto Source
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > WTF - SOS Error Message



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-14-2007, 05:21 AM   #1
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

WTF - SOS Error Message

So I got my toy back from Alto's smash repairers after much agro last night.

Appears they ordered the wrong door handle (one without the comfort access) and were anal retentive about assembling the door and then reassembling once the correct part arrived from Germany if I inisted in them fitting a standard unpainted handle given it's 6 week lead time. End of the day I won the battle so appart from a black handle & no comfort access from the ds side I'm good to rock. You may know that feeling of coming home from a long trip, opening the door and just sniffing the car evoked such a response (maybe I am sick and need to visit the head dr?).

So I reinstalled my proceed (I had an issue with the green harness, broke a connector when pulling it out b4 sending the car to the repairers) and it took the Vinshu people ages to get back to me about sending a new fitting. Bugger is it arrived today, day after I dodgy'd the connection. However the install went without issue last night, no codes and took maybe 40mins from start to finish. I then went for a nice drive to Brooklyn via the old road to test it..... humm NICE is the word for it.

Anyway to the issue at hand: while driving home from the office 2nite after the ED and Harbour tunnel I got a warning light on the dash about the SOS system being RS and to call into BMW to have it checked out. I stopped off at a mates place on the way home and from there onwards the error was gone.

So my question is should I worry about this or should I go to BMW and get it checked? If the latter should I remove the proceed or just suck it and see what happens?

IMHO it appears to me to be a phone issue rather than something due to the proceed....

Anyway cannot do anymore testing 2nite as a nice bottle of red appeared when I got home.... will see what happens on the way to the office 2morrow.

BTW appologies for those that wanted to see a dyno of the car stock, addicted to the power now so I could not wait b4 reinstalling the proceed. I will however be running a cable to the glovebox on the w/e so will run a stock map @ the same place after V2 arrives.
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 05:30 AM   #2
astra
Brigadier General
 
astra's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney

Posts: 3,748
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to astra
ot, bt how did you go with having the procede in when taking your car to the dealer? warranty issues?
__________________
astra is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 06:14 AM   #3
adriant
New Member
 
Drives: 335i (E92)
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne

Posts: 20
iTrader: (0)

I had an SOS error message a few months ago. Didn't happen again, but I was at the dealership a few weeks later and got them to check it, but they couldn't find anything wrong with it... but for peace of mind you may want to get it checked.
adriant is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 06:17 AM   #4
BMW //MPOWER
Major
 
Drives: BMW 325CI MY04 //M Clubsport
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,398
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to BMW //MPOWER
A mate of mine had the same error message, but it was due to the stupid runflats, which somehow manged to get 2 punctures in the first 1000km of driving of a brand spanking new 5er, like.... go figure!
__________________

BMW 325Ci MY2004 Individual //M Clubsport Edition, //M Clubsport package, //M Sport 18"s, Manual //M Short Shift, Carbon Black, Black Aluminium Cube Interior.
BMW //MPOWER is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 06:39 AM   #5
1q2w3e4r
Breakfast at Tiffany's
 
1q2w3e4r's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sydney

Posts: 1,021
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to 1q2w3e4r
If you've installed any aftermarket ECU or piggyback system BMW have a zero tollerance for mucking around with the DME and will no doubt regretfully but firmly withdraw their warranty (totally within reason in my view) so I'd remove anything that would give them the opportunity to if it were my car.

Sorry to hear about the drama, sounds like a headache.
__________________
|| 0-60 3.3| 60-130 7.1| 1/4 11.054@ 132.89 ||
Check out my movies
Current; 996 TT, Cayenne TT, BMW E30, Wifey's; Wrangler, 356A Coupe
1q2w3e4r is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 06:41 AM   #6
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by astra View Post
ot, bt how did you go with having the procede in when taking your car to the dealer? warranty issues?
Removed it b4 they collected it for repairs then reinstalled it last night when I got home. Will probably leave it in when they do the handle as there would be 0% need to open the bonnet & it's a PITA to open up all the covers. Will be trying to route the serial cable into the cabin on the w.e so as to be able to load a stock map when it does go in, wa sto dark last night to give it a go and besides I needed a proper drive after having a Hyundai for a week or so.
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-14-2007, 06:50 AM   #7
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r View Post
If you've installed any aftermarket ECU or piggyback system BMW have a zero tollerance for mucking around with the DME and will no doubt regretfully but firmly withdraw their warranty (totally within reason in my view) so I'd remove anything that would give them the opportunity to if it were my car.

Sorry to hear about the drama, sounds like a headache.
Can of worms really but the manufacturer needs to prove any mods done affected the systems and therefore caused a failure. For instance if you have a bush issue they could blame it on the non-standard wheels? Oil gumming up in the engine blame it on the wrong oil, rust issue blame it on the non-standard spoiler.... There are lots of variables and it is difficult to prove one way or the other, end of the day if you mod your car then you take the risk.

That said I agree that removing said mod so as to reduce the chance of them catching you is while not strictly ethical is a sound choice

No real drama regarding the SOS message, just a PITA if it occurs again, I think however it was probably something to do with a network outage (assuming that the SOS system runs on the GSM network) but will not be able to confirm this unless the problem code is still there in the morning or in the future if it comes onto the dash again.

Regards,

S
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-15-2007, 05:52 AM   #8
CaptOz
Captain
 
CaptOz's Avatar
 
Drives: Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 833
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
So my question is should I worry about this or should I go to BMW and get it checked? If the latter should I remove the proceed or just suck it and see what happens?
I’d leave it and wait and see. If anything, I’d give the dealer a call and ask to speak to a master techo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
Anyway cannot do anymore testing 2nite as a nice bottle of red appeared when I got home....
Ahhhhhh……

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
BTW appologies for those that wanted to see a dyno of the car stock……
Sigh

Cheers.
CaptOz is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-15-2007, 04:25 PM   #9
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Good news, warning message has not appeared in the last few days so coast must be clear
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-15-2007, 10:36 PM   #10
astra
Brigadier General
 
astra's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney

Posts: 3,748
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to astra
Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
Removed it b4 they collected it for repairs then reinstalled it last night when I got home. Will probably leave it in when they do the handle as there would be 0% need to open the bonnet & it's a PITA to open up all the covers. Will be trying to route the serial cable into the cabin on the w.e so as to be able to load a stock map when it does go in, wa sto dark last night to give it a go and besides I needed a proper drive after having a Hyundai for a week or so.
i was thinking i shold remove the intake, so that they have absoloutely nothing that they can grmble about (as they don't seem to care abot the cosmetic mods such as my wheels etc)
__________________
astra is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 04:32 AM   #11
e93
open air motoring at its best
 
e93's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E93 335i Convertible
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia

Posts: 481
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 e93 335i  [0.00]
I'm not sure what everyone worries about with mods - maybe proceed is a no no but in reality - how many warranty issues of a mechanical nature has anyone had to claim. This is my third BMW - the only warranty claim I've had was a broken interior light in my X5 (oh and my stuck roof on the e93 and we know how that ended or will end when they fix it)

Would be interested to know what warranty claims any of you have had with your BMW.
__________________

2007 335i Convertible || Black Sapphire | Cream Beige | Burr Walnut | 6 AT Paddles | Comfort Access | Aluminium Pedals | Aero Front Spoiler | Remus Quads | KW V3 Coilovers | Velocity V-715 wheels | M3 Rear Lip Spoiler || On Order || || Wishlist || ||
e93 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 05:11 AM   #12
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e93 View Post
I'm not sure what everyone worries about with mods - maybe proceed is a no no but in reality - how many warranty issues of a mechanical nature has anyone had to claim. This is my third BMW - the only warranty claim I've had was a broken interior light in my X5 (oh and my stuck roof on the e93 and we know how that ended or will end when they fix it)

Would be interested to know what warranty claims any of you have had with your BMW.
Had both rear tail lights replaced as they were cracked, apart from that nil as yet (but she is only 3mths old).

My last car had a few (Subie) and the dealer was very good about things that may or may not have been boarder line. End of the day a lot depends on your relationship with them.
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 05:26 AM   #13
astra
Brigadier General
 
astra's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney

Posts: 3,748
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to astra
well i am ABOUT to have a warranty issue adressed... i have a broken air con vent (cos i never use the aircon (cos the roof is always dropped), so i only just found out about it)...

i worry about the warranty issues, cos my service gy nearly had a fit when he found out what sized wheels i had put on, let alone the suspension... might be going to a different dealer soon...
__________________
astra is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 05:39 AM   #14
e93
open air motoring at its best
 
e93's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E93 335i Convertible
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Coast NSW Australia

Posts: 481
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 e93 335i  [0.00]
Do what Daninsyd does and take it to a (non dealer) specialist for servicing. Better than a 16 year old apprentice working on your car. Visit the stealership only when you need broken plastic bits replaced under warranty.
__________________

2007 335i Convertible || Black Sapphire | Cream Beige | Burr Walnut | 6 AT Paddles | Comfort Access | Aluminium Pedals | Aero Front Spoiler | Remus Quads | KW V3 Coilovers | Velocity V-715 wheels | M3 Rear Lip Spoiler || On Order || || Wishlist || ||
e93 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 05:52 AM   #15
astra
Brigadier General
 
astra's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney

Posts: 3,748
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to astra
i think i might just do that
__________________
astra is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 06:16 AM   #16
CaptOz
Captain
 
CaptOz's Avatar
 
Drives: Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 833
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
Had both rear tail lights replaced as they were cracked.....
BOTH?!?!? How were they cracked Wopalx?

Quote:
Originally Posted by astra View Post
well i am ABOUT to have a warranty issue adressed... i have a broken air con vent (cos i never use the aircon (cos the roof is always dropped)
Let me know what they find Astra.

Cheers.
CaptOz is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 04:30 PM   #17
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Capt'n - If you open the boot on the sedan there is a thin plastic piece that runs inside the tailgate, the plastic is moulded around the edge. Both of these had cracked/broken when I collected the car.


Astra - all you need to say to the dealer is please prove that my wheels affected the a/c. Now if you had issues with say steering or suspension bushes then they could claim the wheels caused it but the a/c - no way in a month of Sundays. Likewise they may try and pin rattles on the suspension alts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptOz View Post
BOTH?!?!? How were they cracked Wopalx?



Let me know what they find Astra.

Cheers.
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 05:55 PM   #18
1q2w3e4r
Breakfast at Tiffany's
 
1q2w3e4r's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sydney

Posts: 1,021
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to 1q2w3e4r
Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post

Astra - all you need to say to the dealer is please prove that my wheels affected the a/c. Now if you had issues with say steering or suspension bushes then they could claim the wheels caused it but the a/c - no way in a month of Sundays. Likewise they may try and pin rattles on the suspension alts.
Agree with what you've said, although the E46's are notorious for rear subframe failures on cars that are stock let alone modified with aftermarket suspension and coilovers and larger wheels in which it also occours. I would imagine you'd have a hard time getting BMW to cover it if it happened with aftermarket bits on the car as they aren't included in the design process.

But for the AC or interior rattles etc no deal, makes no difference what suspension setup or wheels are on the car, it's still covered.

As far as warranty issues, the S54B32 engines are notorious for engine failures due to a process in the manufacturing of the connecting rod bearings. My car popped the engine within the first 1200km origionally. It's had the coils replaced when one of them failed then had the entire lot replaced for the later Bosch ones, thats not to mention the subframe problem which I had reinforced by a specalist as BMW's fix it just a replace job.
__________________
|| 0-60 3.3| 60-130 7.1| 1/4 11.054@ 132.89 ||
Check out my movies
Current; 996 TT, Cayenne TT, BMW E30, Wifey's; Wrangler, 356A Coupe
1q2w3e4r is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      08-16-2007, 11:34 PM   #19
graham999au
Private First Class
 
graham999au's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 335i Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Australia

Posts: 146
iTrader: (0)

Interesting, I just had the SOS error come up for the first time today. It seems to be an intermittent problem. I do not have any after-market items installed, so it is definitely not related to the Procede....
__________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________
2011 E92 335i M Sport Coupe/DCT/Black Sapphire/Oyster/Bamboo Grain/Sunroof/OEM Performance Exhaust/Individual Audio/Heated Seats/TV/Folding Mirrors/6FL iPod/6NF Extended Connectivity/Internet/ACS Roof spoiler/ACS Aluminium Peddles
graham999au is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      08-17-2007, 01:38 AM   #20
astra
Brigadier General
 
astra's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW 325Ci Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sydney

Posts: 3,748
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Send a message via MSN to astra
Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
Astra - all you need to say to the dealer is please prove that my wheels affected the a/c. Now if you had issues with say steering or suspension bushes then they could claim the wheels caused it but the a/c - no way in a month of Sundays. Likewise they may try and pin rattles on the suspension alts.
no, the wheels don't have anything to do with it... it is the switch on the aircon vent that changes the air flow direction... it is practically hanging by a thread, and i just came to my car one day, and it was broken, so nfi how it happened
__________________
astra is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:29 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST