E90Post
 


N54Tuning.com
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N55 Turbo Engine Tuning and Exhaust Modifications - 335i Tuning > Vanos Recall and Walnut Blast



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-17-2014, 01:31 PM   #1
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Vanos Recall and Walnut Blast

Hey folks,

For those that understand the work involved in doing the Vanos bolt recall work, is there any synergy in doing a walnut blast of the intake ports while doing that? I am thinking of asking the dealer to do a blast on mine while it is in for the Vanos work and an oil change and if it is easier to do these at the same time I would like to know.

Thanks!
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 01:43 PM   #2
Jeef
Captain
United_States
8
Rep
890
Posts

 
Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm
Hey folks,

For those that understand the work involved in doing the Vanos bolt recall work, is there any synergy in doing a walnut blast of the intake ports while doing that? I am thinking of asking the dealer to do a blast on mine while it is in for the Vanos work and an oil change and if it is easier to do these at the same time I would like to know.

Thanks!
Where you located? Dealer charges arm and leg for walnut blasting
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 01:49 PM   #3
M.a.r.k.u.s
First Lieutenant
4
Rep
307
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 BMW 335i xdrive M-Sport
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm View Post
Hey folks,

For those that understand the work involved in doing the Vanos bolt recall work, is there any synergy in doing a walnut blast of the intake ports while doing that? I am thinking of asking the dealer to do a blast on mine while it is in for the Vanos work and an oil change and if it is easier to do these at the same time I would like to know.

Thanks!
I wouldn't have the dealer do it either. IS Garage in Renton does them now. Ian (the owner) used to be a mechanic at bmw of seattle. He's very good at what he does and charges a fraction of the dealer prices.

I know that doesn't answer your question but it might save you lots of money
__________________
2011 BMW 335i xDrive M-Sport, Cobb AP V3, Wedge custom flash, BMS DP, BMS CP, BMS Intake, VRSF 7" FMIC, KW V1's, Alpina flash, Cyba tips, brushed black metal interior wrap, debaged, misc coding
2011 BMW 335xi : 12.567 @ 109.750 MPH
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 02:13 PM   #4
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Interesting. Thanks for letting me know about that Markus. Did you get a blast done? If you did, how did they look? I am still on the fence about if the N55's suffer the same as the N54's since we have a different PCV system.

I was thinking about complaining about the rough idle and seeing if I could get them to do it under warranty. It would be an easier sell if they are already going to be in there doing the Vanos work.
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 02:19 PM   #5
M.a.r.k.u.s
First Lieutenant
4
Rep
307
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 BMW 335i xdrive M-Sport
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm View Post
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know about that Markus. Did you get a blast done? If you did, how did they look? I am still on the fence about if the N55's suffer the same as the N54's since we have a different PCV system.

I was thinking about complaining about the rough idle and seeing if I could get them to do it under warranty. It would be an easier sell if they are already going to be in there doing the Vanos work.
Not yet but I just talked to him about it. He just recently did one on a N55 and said it was pretty nasty in there. I'll schedule mine with him sometime in the next month probably.

As far as the rough idle goes, the dme update the dealer did for me helped a ton. Not sure if you're on the newest one but if not, it would be worth checking out.
__________________
2011 BMW 335i xDrive M-Sport, Cobb AP V3, Wedge custom flash, BMS DP, BMS CP, BMS Intake, VRSF 7" FMIC, KW V1's, Alpina flash, Cyba tips, brushed black metal interior wrap, debaged, misc coding
2011 BMW 335xi : 12.567 @ 109.750 MPH
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 02:28 PM   #6
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M.a.r.k.u.s View Post
Not yet but I just talked to him about it. He just recently did one on a N55 and said it was pretty nasty in there. I'll schedule mine with him sometime in the next month probably.

As far as the rough idle goes, the dme update the dealer did for me helped a ton. Not sure if you're on the newest one but if not, it would be worth checking out.
Good to know. How much did he price the service at?

I think I am on the most recent DME version but I will ask. I do worry a little about getting this updated as I have heard stories of folks losing power with the update. I take it you did not see this.
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 02:31 PM   #7
M.a.r.k.u.s
First Lieutenant
4
Rep
307
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 BMW 335i xdrive M-Sport
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm View Post
Good to know. How much did he price the service at?

I think I am on the most recent DME version but I will ask. I do worry a little about getting this updated as I have heard stories of folks losing power with the update. I take it you did not see this.
No i haven't noticed any power loss with the dme update. You can see what version you currently have in INPA. I didn't have to pay for the dme update luckily (even though I was already out of warranty)
__________________
2011 BMW 335i xDrive M-Sport, Cobb AP V3, Wedge custom flash, BMS DP, BMS CP, BMS Intake, VRSF 7" FMIC, KW V1's, Alpina flash, Cyba tips, brushed black metal interior wrap, debaged, misc coding
2011 BMW 335xi : 12.567 @ 109.750 MPH
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 03:23 PM   #8
Jeef
Captain
United_States
8
Rep
890
Posts

 
Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know about that Markus. Did you get a blast done? If you did, how did they look? I am still on the fence about if the N55's suffer the same as the N54's since we have a different PCV system.

I was thinking about complaining about the rough idle and seeing if I could get them to do it under warranty. It would be an easier sell if they are already going to be in there doing the Vanos work.
Almost all DI engines suffer carbon build up
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 04:37 PM   #9
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeef View Post
Almost all DI engines suffer carbon build up
True, but there is little experience with the N55's with regard to the severity of the buildup. We know the N54's suffer pretty bad buildup but the N55 changed the PCV system significantly which should reduce the amount of oil in the intake tract.
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 07:58 PM   #10
Jsoboti
First Lieutenant
Jsoboti's Avatar
4
Rep
383
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 335i E92 M-Sport 6MT
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

If you do get it done please have them take pictures so the rest of us can kind of gauge what ours probably look like
__________________
JB4 G5 ISO FF | BMS Performance Intake | BMS Wheel Spacers | VRSF Catless DP | Red CYBA Scoops | Supreme Power Lowering Perches | VRSF Charge Pipe
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 08:46 PM   #11
GB-335xiCoupe
Libertarian
GB-335xiCoupe's Avatar
United_States
37
Rep
1,369
Posts

 
Drives: his wife crazy.
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Green Bay area

iTrader: (0)

I just had them done. 2011 N55 with 101,000 miles. I'm going to post pics in a separate thread soon. I'll put a link here when done.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 08:53 PM   #12
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GB-335xiCoupe View Post
I just had them done. 2011 N55 with 101,000 miles. I'm going to post pics in a separate thread soon. I'll put a link here when done.
Awesome! I am curious for the photos and your impressions of the difference.

btw, you must be a driving fool! That is a S-ton of miles over only 3 years!! Congrats!
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 10:41 PM   #13
Jeef
Captain
United_States
8
Rep
890
Posts

 
Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwzimm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeef View Post
Almost all DI engines suffer carbon build up
True, but there is little experience with the N55's with regard to the severity of the buildup. We know the N54's suffer pretty bad buildup but the N55 changed the PCV system significantly which should reduce the amount of oil in the intake tract.
Did my buddies 135 at 30k I would say its pretty bad too!
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 10:48 PM   #14
GB-335xiCoupe
Libertarian
GB-335xiCoupe's Avatar
United_States
37
Rep
1,369
Posts

 
Drives: his wife crazy.
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Green Bay area

iTrader: (0)

Here ya go! When you get to my flickr account, you can look at all the walnut blast pics in the album.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1059494
Appreciate 0
      11-17-2014, 11:43 PM   #15
jwzimm
Major
jwzimm's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,167
Posts

 
Drives: '11 335i X-drive Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Renton, WA

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GB-335xiCoupe View Post
Here ya go! When you get to my flickr account, you can look at all the walnut blast pics in the album.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1059494
Thanks! Those are honestly not too bad for 100k+ miles. Not much flow area restriction unlike what we have seen on the N54's. Still looks like it is a good idea to get done but I would say 100k is about the right timing.
__________________
2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - KW V1 Coilovers, BMW PPK Stage 1, "is" fog deletes, rear diffuser, and black exhaust tips, CDV delete, Bimmertech reverse cam, lots of coding.
Appreciate 0
      11-19-2014, 05:00 PM   #16
Subaru335i
Private First Class
1
Rep
163
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 335i 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Minneapolis

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 Subaru WRX  [0.00]
2011 335i  [0.00]
Yeah N55 will still need it done but not as often or as soon as N54. I also get the feeling that the N55 isn't as oil hungry as the N54. Mine never loses any oil even when I bought it and the previous owner hadn't done an oil change in 15k miles...
__________________
2011 335i 6MT CPO - Cobb Stage 1 Aggressive
2007 WRX Limited - STI swap, TD06-20GXT, E85, 22psi, NF Tuned
Appreciate 0
      11-20-2014, 06:11 PM   #17
darge82
New Member
0
Rep
14
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 335
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: ct

iTrader: (0)

The VANOS recall has zero overlapping labor when doing a Walnut blast. The walnut blast the intake needs to be removed. The vanos recall is just the valve cover being removed. The only thing that is similar between the 2 repairs really is removing the airbox.
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2014, 08:03 AM   #18
GB-335xiCoupe
Libertarian
GB-335xiCoupe's Avatar
United_States
37
Rep
1,369
Posts

 
Drives: his wife crazy.
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Green Bay area

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by darge82 View Post
The VANOS recall has zero overlapping labor when doing a Walnut blast. The walnut blast the intake needs to be removed. The vanos recall is just the valve cover being removed. The only thing that is similar between the 2 repairs really is removing the airbox.
True. Unless other repairs are needed due to damage caused by VANOS bolts breaking.
__________________
2011 335xi Coupe Black Sapphire Metallic (e92/N55/ZPP/ZCW/Vishnu Procede, Alpina Flash)
Bought 08/09/2013@53,340mi Current 12/17/2014@104,100mi
Fail(s): tstat hous/water pump 89k http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...57&postcount=9
Walnut blast 101k, Transmission/Transfer Case Fluid 103k
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST