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      08-27-2016, 01:27 PM   #1
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Help with PPK flash - apparently I have a really old DME version?

I'm having a local coding guy do the PPK flash on my car as this is really outside my expertise. Using Zusub 8615936 for an E92 335xi with MEVD1726, he immediately got an error 201. Here are the screen shots he gave me. My car is a 2011 335xi MT. We went with the Zusub for MEVD1726 because the description on the third line of the last screen shot says Motorelektronik ME VD17.2.6. This means my car is MEVD1726, and not MEVD17, right? Anyone have some suggestions?






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I'm working with a local coding guy to try and do the PPK flash on my 2011 335xi MT. We looked at the DME version and apparently it has never been updated since 2011. He gets an Error 201 when trying to do the flash with Zusub 86315936 as provided on that chart from HansWurst for a E92 335xi with DME MEVD1726, and provided me with these screen shots. Can anyone help here? Thanks!





You're trying to flash the wrong ZB number. Your local coding guy doesn't know what he's doing...caveat emptor!

Your current firmware (ZB 7629738) and ZB 8615936 are both compatible with an E92 LCI 335xi, however, ZB 7629738 is intended for the MEVD17 ECU family and ZB 8615936 is intended for the MEVD1726 ECU family. They are two different DMEs and cannot be flashed interchangeably.

Flash ZB 8639128 instead.

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In this guy's defense, he told me up front that he mostly does things like nav map updates, feature tweaks, and Alpina TCU flashes, and had only done the PPK on a couple of cars. He updated my nav maps and did the other feature tweaks I requested no problem.

There was some confusion over whether it was MEVD17 or MEVD1726 because the 17.2.6 could have been interpreted as MEVD1726. We both figured maybe it should have been ZB 8639128 for the MEVD17, but since neither of us was overly familiar with the process we wanted to get some information from people who know more about it before trying anything.

I'll let him know about your answer, and thanks for the quick response!
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I'm in Wisconsin so might be a bit of a drive if you're in California.

I'm meeting back up with the coding guy tomorrow, and going to use the ZB number for MEVD17. I'll report back here with results.
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how do you figure out which ZB is for PPK for specific hw??
i mean, how do you know which one is PPK?
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We tried again this morning with ZB 8639128 for MEVD17 DME and everything went off without a hitch. Only took a few minutes to flash the PPK. I have a brand new battery and we had a not-very-strong charger hooked up to the car as well (I don't know the exact amp rating). DRLs and all other lights deactivated to minimize current draw. The first minute or so the car made a bunch of whirring noise from the engine bay (which I knew to expect) and the progress bar wasn't moving so we were slightly biting our nails but then it started moving and no problems.

Went for a drive and my car now has the PPK burble and drives just fine. I was hoping to take boost gauge readings before and after the flash, but I couldn't quite figure out how to get an accurate boost reading using Torque so that idea's out the window now that the PPK flash is on my car.

Levanime -- The ZB numbers are in the instructions here.

In my case, I was mistakenly using the ZB number for a MEVD1726 ECU when I in fact have a MEVD17 ECU. The confusion was, we looked at the information in the third screen in my original post, that third line with the DME information says MEVD176K and in the description, ME VD17.2.6. The thought process was "MEVD176K is neither MEVD17 or MEVD1726, but it sure looks like 1726 in the second place, so I guess it's MEVD1726?" That of course turned out to be an incorrect assumption.

Aside from all this poking through code numbers in files, I found another way to get an idea whether you have MEVD17 or MEVD1726 is to put the last 7 digits of your VIN into RealOEM, then go to Engine Electrical System. Under Control Units you'll see options for MEVD172 and MEVD1726.



One of those two sections will list part numbers for your car, the other will say no parts available. For me, I got part numbers on MEVD172, and nothing for MEVD1726.





I also checked a car with a later build date (mine is 8/2011) and the part numbers were only under MEVD1726. So you can at least get a sense (but I can't guarantee this is 100% true in all cases) that if you have part numbers on RealOEM under MEVD172 then you're MEVD17 on the chart in the thread I linked, or otherwise MEVD1726 is the same in both places.
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thanks,

those ZB numbers in original instruction are for old SPDaten, for new SPDatens (i guess from 58) numbers have changed, of course there is file with reference, but anyways i was wondering how to find out which ZB number is for PPK and lets say which one is for Alpina b3 transmission
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I guess someone managed to check the ZSUB number of a PPK flashed car compared to an OEM car, and the same with the Alpina TCU flash (Alpina zsub compared to OEM)

Then i guess it's just a matter of tracking it through the .HIS files for the updates throughout the daten changes...
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thanks,

those ZB numbers in original instruction are for old SPDaten, for new SPDatens (i guess from 58) numbers have changed, of course there is file with reference, but anyways i was wondering how to find out which ZB number is for PPK and lets say which one is for Alpina b3 transmission
The Alpina B3 flash is still 7615835.

The updated zusb for the v57+ PPK is 8666678.

I only learned of the updated zusb through research on forums. I'm not sure how to actually find out which zusb is which.
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Anyone have DIY for this? I have coded my car for things like getting rid of the door gong and I really want the PPK flash but I dont think I would be comfortable with tackling it with the little bit of information I've been able to gather from a few different forums :/
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The Alpina B3 flash is still 7615835.

The updated zusb for the v57+ PPK is 8666678.

I only learned of the updated zusb through research on forums. I'm not sure how to actually find out which zusb is which.
There is also a new PPK zusb for the xi starting in v57, according to this post it's 8666660.

I originally went with the older one from SP Daten v54 because I wanted to stick to a 98G0B ROM in case I wanted to get a Cobb AccessPort down the road, since Cobb wasn't yet supporting the 98G1B ROM. But now that they are supporting the 98G1B ROM I may see if I can get on the newer PPK flash, if there's some kind of drivability improvements or whatnot. My coding guy has a copy of the v58 SP Daten file so it's just a matter of flashing that 8666660 zusb.

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