E90Post
 


GetBMWParts
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > General E90 Sedan / E91 Wagon / E92 Coupe / E93 Cabrio > BMW 335i vs Cadillac ATS



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-27-2012, 08:16 PM   #1
wwc310
Second Lieutenant
 
wwc310's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 298
iTrader: (0)

BMW 335i vs Cadillac ATS

Saw this today on Yahoo.

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...152700891.html
wwc310 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 08:19 PM   #2
Amini77
Brigadier General
 
Amini77's Avatar
 
Drives: SGM E90 330xi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tarzana, CA

Posts: 4,580
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 330XI  [3.75]
nopenopenopenope...no comparison lol. I'm all for the new american cars but thats isn't much competition for bmw, caddilac could have done better. Thanks for sharing
__________________

instagram: amini77
| KW V1 | LCI rear | 359m Style | Michelin PSS | AA Stage 2 | Gruppe M | Remus | Mtech Rear | M3 Front |
Amini77 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 08:22 PM   #3
amuzement
First Lieutenant
 
amuzement's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 335i LCI
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Anaheim Hills, CA

Posts: 306
iTrader: (0)

I thought he was going to wreck the rear of that ATS into the metal rail!
amuzement is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
kdbryce
I have to return some video tapes
 
kdbryce's Avatar
 
Drives: e92 335i 6mt
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Albany, NY

Posts: 4,229
iTrader: (0)

i just watched one of those head to head comparisons that placed the 335 in 3rd behind the c350 and ats 3.6 (ats in first)

bullshit in my opinion
__________________
13 Black Sapphire e92 335i - 10 Le Mans Blue e92 335i - 09 Monaco Blue e92 328i xdrive - 07 Sparkling Graphite e92 328xi
kdbryce is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 08:54 PM   #5
CombatNinja
Banned
 
CombatNinja's Avatar
 
Drives: e91 328i, e90 328i, e90 335i
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United States

Posts: 1,587
iTrader: (0)

Ok, raise your hand if you've driven an ATS. Any ATS. Didn't think so.

SLOW
FANBOI ZONE
CombatNinja is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 09:38 PM   #6
MattMD
E9X > F3X
 
MattMD's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 328i
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Maryland

Posts: 718
iTrader: (0)

I gotta give the ATS some credit. It will make a nice rental car.
__________________
2009 E90 328i - Space Grey Metallic on Black // iDrive // Premium Package // Xenons

Mods - Stock for now

Dream Car - Mineral White E92 M3 DCT, Ferrari 458 (someday )
MattMD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 09:41 PM   #7
GChase
Captain
 
GChase's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E90 328i
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Louisville, KY

Posts: 701
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CombatNinja View Post
Ok, raise your hand if you've driven an ATS. Any ATS. Didn't think so.

SLOW
FANBOI ZONE
+1
GChase is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 09:54 PM   #8
dr335is
Brigadier General
 
Drives: GTI
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 4,973
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Low Key OG View Post
I gotta give the ATS some credit. It will make a nice rental car.
I just rented a 2012 328i (F30) and it was also a nice rental (Avis)...
Anyway, I hav read quite a few reviews where ATS kills F30 in the performance/handling area, where BMW 3er ruled for decades...
dr335is is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:11 PM   #9
captainaudio
World's Foremost Authority
 
Drives: 335i E93 750Li
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida

Posts: 3,216
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr335is View Post
I just rented a 2012 328i (F30) and it was also a nice rental (Avis)...
Anyway, I hav read quite a few reviews where ATS kills F30 in the performance/handling area, where BMW 3er ruled for decades...
I tried to rent an ATS from Hertz. They didn't have any - rented a Mercedes C250 instead.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center
Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
The Glen Club - Sports Car Club of America
captainaudio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:16 PM   #10
MattMD
E9X > F3X
 
MattMD's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 328i
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Maryland

Posts: 718
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr335is View Post
I just rented a 2012 328i (F30) and it was also a nice rental (Avis)...
Anyway, I hav read quite a few reviews where ATS kills F30 in the performance/handling area, where BMW 3er ruled for decades...
I don't know why BMW is abandoning its roots! It became a multi-billion dollar corporation with its sporty automobiles. It seems like now you have to buy an M car to get the dynamics of previous lower models. Car and Driver said the E90 is superior to the ATS in every way...so I'm content. I pick the E9X over the F3X as of now. The ATS and F30 both have kinks that will hopefully be worked out in an LCI.

It's good that BMW has tougher competition. (I don't think Infiniti and Lexus will just sit back either) It'll be like a reality check for them. They better make a fix if they wanna keep the 3 series as "the 3 series."
__________________
2009 E90 328i - Space Grey Metallic on Black // iDrive // Premium Package // Xenons

Mods - Stock for now

Dream Car - Mineral White E92 M3 DCT, Ferrari 458 (someday )

Last edited by MattMD; 11-27-2012 at 10:28 PM.
MattMD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:21 PM   #11
captainaudio
World's Foremost Authority
 
Drives: 335i E93 750Li
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida

Posts: 3,216
iTrader: (0)

It sppears that Cadillac has come up with a car that is a legitimate competitor in the segment.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center
Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
The Glen Club - Sports Car Club of America
captainaudio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:37 PM   #12
galahad05
Colonel
 
galahad05's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island NY

Posts: 2,475
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
It sppears that Cadillac has come up with a car that is a legitimate competitor in the segment.

CA
I read in a Car and Driver article that the Cadillac engineers deliberately set their sights for dimensions/handling/feel on the e46 3-series. Looks like they succeeded. The thing is even nearly identical in every outside dimension....

Their auto tranny is their Achilles heel. Have a much better unit, and who knows, the tables might be turned. Or at least it'd be even closer.
__________________
Always laugh when you can. It is cheap medicine
--Lord Byron
galahad05 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:40 PM   #13
SaMaster14
Major
 
SaMaster14's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 BMW E92 335iS
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA / Baltimore, MD

Posts: 1,438
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 BMW 335iS  [3.95]
Send a message via AIM to SaMaster14 Send a message via Skype™ to SaMaster14
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbryce View Post
i just watched one of those head to head comparisons that placed the 335 in 3rd behind the c350 and ats 3.6 (ats in first)

bullshit in my opinion
I saw the same thing. Interestingly enough, supposedly MotorTrend did a review of just the BMW vs. the Cadillac (no Mercedes) and the BMW won... quite odd.
__________________
~2012 BMW 335iS coupe MINERAL WHITE/CORAL RED

http://instagram.com/samaster14/
SaMaster14 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:41 PM   #14
Otruba_843
Major
 
Otruba_843's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 E90
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC

Posts: 1,455
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbryce View Post
i just watched one of those head to head comparisons that placed the 335 in 3rd behind the c350 and ats 3.6 (ats in first)

bullshit in my opinion
Watched that today
__________________
2009 E90 328i Monaco Blue
premium/idrive/convience/logic-7/cold weather/ xenons/ saddle brown interior
Otruba_843 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:45 PM   #15
captainaudio
World's Foremost Authority
 
Drives: 335i E93 750Li
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida

Posts: 3,216
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaMaster14 View Post
I saw the same thing. Interestingly enough, supposedly MotorTrend did a review of just the BMW vs. the Cadillac (no Mercedes) and the BMW won... quite odd.
These comparisons will always be somewhat subjective but there have been a number of ATS vs. F30 reviews and for the most part the reviewers felt that the cars were very close in most respects while the BMW excelled in some areas and the Cadillac in others. What is interesting is that few if any reviewers said that the BMW was more fun to drive.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center
Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
The Glen Club - Sports Car Club of America
captainaudio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:47 PM   #16
galahad05
Colonel
 
galahad05's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Long Island NY

Posts: 2,475
iTrader: (0)

I think it has to do with what's important to you (the car magazine reviewer).
That slants your view of which is better. Both cars apparently approach the "sports sedan" concept slightly differently. The BMW--more power, bigger, bit roomier, a bit better cruiser. The Caddy--essentially an e46 with a craptastic automatic transmission and a somewhat underwhelming engine.
__________________
Always laugh when you can. It is cheap medicine
--Lord Byron
galahad05 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:55 PM   #17
srSheepdog
Private First Class
 
Drives: 07 335i - Montego Blue
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cary, NC

Posts: 116
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
It sppears that Cadillac has come up with a car that is a legitimate competitor in the segment.

CA
The ATS is only a good thing for us 3-lovers, as BMW will up its game to stay dominant. Looking forward to seeing the ATS-V come out.

I'm a fan of excellent cars...no matter who builds them.
srSheepdog is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 10:58 PM   #18
LuisSF
Major
 
LuisSF's Avatar
 
Drives: '13 128i 6mt m-sport
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Francisco

Posts: 1,463
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 328xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by srSheepdog View Post
The ATS is only a good thing for us 3-lovers, as BMW will up its game to stay dominant. Looking forward to seeing the ATS-V come out.

I'm a fan of excellent cars...no matter who builds them.
Or BMW will just continue down the Audi route.
__________________
Would rather take the bus than drive an automatic.
2013 BMW 128i 6MT MGM/CR. M-sport/Premium/Cold, HK, Xenons, Fineline trim, Security System, BMW Assist, BMW SSK and PE. European Delivery 7-12-2013.
SOLD: 2007 BMW 328xi 6MT BSM/Terra
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...future+classic
LuisSF is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-27-2012, 11:48 PM   #19
srSheepdog
Private First Class
 
Drives: 07 335i - Montego Blue
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cary, NC

Posts: 116
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lem144 View Post
Or BMW will just continue down the Audi route.
I could suffer through life with a V10 R8...
srSheepdog is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-28-2012, 03:20 AM   #20
brocklanders
Captain
 
brocklanders's Avatar
 
Drives: the uno, mineral white
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: houston

Posts: 948
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
06 325  [0.00]
i just read the article and all the comments, i think just the fact that they said the caddy steered and handled better made me put it on my test drive list. hopefully the ats-v will be available when my lease is up, i cant/wont drive an auto. i just dont like the direction bmw is going in, or any other auto maker for that matter, im not a fan of electric steering, i dont like the electric throttle my e90 has.
brocklanders is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-28-2012, 04:38 AM   #21
CombatNinja
Banned
 
CombatNinja's Avatar
 
Drives: e91 328i, e90 328i, e90 335i
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: United States

Posts: 1,587
iTrader: (0)

Biggest surprise for me: trunk volume of the F30 is 17 cubic ft. The Caddy only has 10. So the Cadillac handles better while the MW is cushier and has a bigger trunk. How's that for crazy? I'm going to put on some white sneakers and head down to the local Denny's for the early bird special, who's with me?
CombatNinja is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-28-2012, 06:06 AM   #22
Fatty Duckets
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NJ

Posts: 235
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CombatNinja View Post
Biggest surprise for me: trunk volume of the F30 is 17 cubic ft. The Caddy only has 10. So the Cadillac handles better while the MW is cushier and has a bigger trunk. How's that for crazy? I'm going to put on some white sneakers and head down to the local Denny's for the early bird special, who's with me?
Lmao....let me get that Dennys!!!!!!!!
Fatty Duckets is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST