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      12-21-2012, 01:33 AM   #1
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E91 on a trackday?

Loving my now remapped 335d tourer and have started to wonder what a trackday would be like. I've done plenty of trackdays on my bike but never a car.

I like the idea of turning up in an estate and surprising some people!

How crowded do car trackdays get, obviously bikes are physically smaller so there's plenty of passing room etc. How likely is getting shunted?
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The likely hood of getting shunted really depends on the trackday organiser. If they're doing their job, they would black flag anyone who was proving to exceed their limits on a consistent basis.

My recommendation is to check a few organisers out first and read people's reviews on their experiences. As long as people are sensible, you shouldn't have any issues.

With your E91, make sure it's up to track work. It might sound daft, but they're big heavy things which aren't suited well to anything but long straight roads. I haven't tracked one, but would imagine that standard brake setup's would fade pretty quickly.

ETA - Congestion on track is again down to the organiser (or the track themselves). With sessions or open pit they'll be a maximum number of cars allowed on track at any given point.

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There are many novice trackdays around the country and are normally sessioned which gives the car a chance to cool down after every session.

I have attended many trackdays and have never seen any mishaps where two cars have collided/touched. Most trackday organisers are very good and will not tollerate nutters.

I would upgrade the brake fluid (Motul RBF600 is very good), If your pads are worn down past half way I would change them and upgrade.

Just like a bike trackday use your mirrors and have fun
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      12-21-2012, 05:38 AM   #4
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Just like a bike trackday use your mirrors and have fun
Eh? On a bike trackday you're told not to use your mirrors, only look in front - behind is other people's problem. I remove my mirrors, full track bike next year anyway

Is a car day different then?

I'll look at brake options - thanks!
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Eh? On a bike trackday you're told not to use your mirrors, only look in front - behind is other people's problem. I remove my mirrors, full track bike next year anyway

Is a car day different then?

I'll look at brake options - thanks!
Well, I did not know that. As you can tell I prefer 4 wheels

On a car trackday you need to use your mirrors and can only pass on one side, left or right, and usually only on a straight. This depends on track/organiser.
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Well, I did not know that. As you can tell I prefer 4 wheels

On a car trackday you need to use your mirrors and can only pass on one side, left or right, and usually only on a straight. This depends on track/organiser.
Ok, cool. Do you take your 335i then?
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On a car trackday you need to use your mirrors and can only pass on one side, left or right, and usually only on a straight. This depends on track/organiser.
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Use your mirrors to see if anyone is behind you and clearly quicker. If they are, you typically indicate to acknowledge you've seen them and are allowing them to pass on the other direction of your indication.

On all the trackdays I've done, passing is only on the straights and you usually lift off a bit so they can get past you more quickly so you can then resume the correct line for the next corner.

The most annoying/inconsiderate/tw*tish thing you can do is not allow a faster lapping car past you on the straights as you have more power.

Youtube usually depicts the worst culprits of this to be drivers of big fast german cars.
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Eh? On a bike trackday you're told not to use your mirrors, only look in front - behind is other people's problem. I remove my mirrors, full track bike next year anyway

Is a car day different then?

I'll look at brake options - thanks!
Yes a car is different, plenty of room to overtake on a bike and not so in a car, hence the need for mirrors to move out the way for faster cars.
Same as race cars and bikes, race cars have mirrors, race bikes dont.
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      12-21-2012, 07:34 AM   #9
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Yes a car is different, plenty of room to overtake on a bike and not so in a car, hence the need for mirrors to move out the way for faster cars.
Same as race cars and bikes, race cars have mirrors, race bikes dont.
Good point well made!
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Who are the best car trackday organisers then? Normally use Focused Events for the bike, I know they do car ones as well but wondered what others experiences were?
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335d are great on track... I think the touring is only 100kilos heavier so I still expect it to perform well.



Could do with an LSD though.
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How does the auto box perform?
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Fine mate, the Auto as you know is much better than Auto's of old. Stick it in DS and use the paddles, the enormous torque is great coming out of corners. Make sure
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Much better then with the DSC/DTC off then? Finding traction a problem on the road at the moment since its been remapped with the traction on!

Was your picture from Oulton?
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I could not drive the car with the stability program's on. Really strangles the car. When is your track day booked?

I have just been out in the M3, it's pissing down. I had it turned off today too. Just fed in the throttle gently out of roundabouts and she still takes off really well. Or if I want to be a hooligan she can come out completely sideways (most of the time) but it has a fantastic differential. The 335d doesn't. But I think you will find the car much better to drive with them disabled especially in the dry (if you like to "press on")




EDIT: the picture was from Snetterton 2008
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I'll give that a go then, thanks!

Haven't booked a day yet, just thinking about my bike track calendar and started to think a car day could be fun. I'd be tempted by Donington as a first one since its local and I know it reasonably well. I'd get to compared laptimes vs the bike as well!
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Haha lol, that will be interesting, what bike do you have?
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Kawasaki ZX6R. Should be no contest but interesting to see nonetheless!
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Nice mate, I do like Kawasaki's.

When I've been to the 'Ring in my 335d I was passing bikes constantly. But they most probably were talking it ultra cautiously. But on the Monday of one trip the circuit was open for 1.5 hours only and was very quiet, some locals turned up on bikes and were ballistic!
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I could not drive the car with the stability program's on. Really strangles the car.



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