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      12-23-2012, 12:17 PM   #1
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$400 for doc fees? NY

Hey guys, so im about to purchase a car, got the price I want but now the dealer is charging me for some nonsense charges

"required to pay ($398 Documentation Fee and $75 dealer prep and detail fee), and corresponding state taxes and registration fees.


What do you guys think? Are these reasonable fees for me to be paying?
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      12-23-2012, 12:27 PM   #2
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Those admin fees suck - but I don't know of any dealer who doesn't charge them.. some folks are lucky and get them "waived" (calculated into price of veh anyhow) or reduced. Me? $499 is what I paid for those crap fees... you should at least try to negotiate those fees though
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Say you are not paying doc fees and they will most likely reduce them from your price. They cannot be taken away, but they can reduce 399 from your price.
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Doc fee is set by dealer, it can be $1000....if you are getting a good deal on a car then its not ridiculous
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Like others have said you can get them "waived" or reduced. I got mine reduced from around $600 to I believe $150-200, but they just deducted it from the sale price. I had to pay the "detail/prep" fee but I demanded and received a refund for it because my car was delivered with swirl marks that weren't there when I test drove.
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I got charged a $75 Gas Fee - which to me is ridiculous. I gotta a great deal so I didnt complain too much.

Its like buying a toy that says batteries not included, extra $$$$.
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A CCA club friend sold me my car, got me a great deal on the money factor and waived the fees since I didn't bust him on the price for the car. Any salesperson can waive the fee all together as they actually get a piece of that markup in their pocket. If your dealer really wants your business, they can cut this down.
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Thats B.S
Doc fee in New York is Maximum to $75
here are some useful links
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/wh...d-you-pay.html
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ide&id=6123173
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I work at a dealership and they charge a 299 doc fee. If they want the sale bad enough they will discount the selling price to compensate.
Else just go to a different dealer..
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Say you are not paying doc fees and they will most likely reduce them from your price. They cannot be taken away, but they can reduce 399 from your price.
I don't know what doc fees are, when you think about it, they type something into a computer and a printer spits out papers. I told them I am not paying MACO and training fees, and they removed them. Car sales is not a regulated industry, so I suppose the finance mgr. can impose a I gotta take a leak right now fee and add $199 to the price if he wants, but a customer is free to walk out the door.
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I worked at a dealership, and to answer your question, doc fees are fees that go straight in the pockets of the owners. Salesmen don't get a percentage off of them nor do doc fees cover fees for "storing your documents and files" at the dealership. It is 100% profit just because they can.
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