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      01-04-2013, 03:55 PM   #1
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330d auto gearbox

Don't know if your aware, but I have a friend who works for ZF here in Nottingham. I have asked him about the gearbox in my 08 330d he said its not sealed for life! It has a service interval or 60-80k, bmw have apparently made it service for life in there wisdom. Might help someone knowing that, if you already knew then I shall shut up!
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      01-04-2013, 05:41 PM   #2
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No, that is very interesting indeed. So BMW say filled for life and ZF say not! ffs
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      01-04-2013, 06:02 PM   #3
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I'm sure I read a thread on here (but it may have been PH) where someone with a ZF 'sealed-for-life' gearbox took it back to ZF in Germany, and they said exactly the same thing.

Everyone who's had the 'box oil changed reports noticeable improvements.
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I'd like to service mine but read a few posts where some people encountered trouble after the oil change...decisions
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      01-05-2013, 02:45 AM   #5
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I do services on auto gearbox's where I work, so it's not to difficult unless the oil level is wrong? That makes a big difference. Hopefully I will get mine serviced very soon as its on 80k
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Remove 'box sump pan, drain oil as far as practicable (measure how much oil is removed) and then refill with fresh. You'll never be able to drain the torque convertor anyway so a full change will never be possible.
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Hopefully I will get a service kit direct from ZF so I know it's all genuine. Will keep you posted
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That would be great 62k on mine now and I'd like to give it a service incl the filter in the pan
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ZF do a service kit for these so they don't definitely don't class them as sealed for life!

http://www.incarmotorfactors.co.uk/t...automatic.html

Would of thought 60-80k would be a good time for a service.
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Do you have the ability to test gearboxes?

I have a rare old pre 2007 box for a 335d ( 6HP26-28) sitting in my garage that needs function testing.
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I honestly don't know what ZF can do, I only know a friend who works for them. I can ask if they can test a gearbox for you? But I don't know if it will be a test on a bench or a strip and check it out.
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I honestly don't know what ZF can do, I only know a friend who works for them. I can ask if they can test a gearbox for you? But I don't know if it will be a test on a bench or a strip and check it out.
I think I got in touch with someone from nottingham when I was having troubles and they refused to deal with me because they dealt with the commercial stuff .. lorries and such like .. but I could be wrong , I called a lot of places !

All i'm interested in is the box to go on a rig to run it up and see if oil pressures are ok and gears change. Obviously something like that wouldn't come free but would be cheaper than stripping it down which for me would be prohibitively expensive.

I did have trouble with this box but am not 100% convinced that the box is goosed, I think there was an electrical issue elsewhere that caused funny bumps and thuds to happen.

If you could tap your contact up and see what he has to say , i'd appreciated it
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A BMW Service Manager also told me that the gearbox oil can and probably should be changed but only if the car is expected to go on for 1,000,000s of miles.

I also read that the method that BMW use to change the oil and the method that gearbox specialists use differs in that BMW don't completely flush through the new oil but simply drain and top up. (Something like that!) Also remember seeing a figure of 11 litres, I think this was the figure needed for a complete flush through?
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On the ZF site it says:
"ZF recommends a regular oil change every 80 000 km."

Note it's 80,000km, which is about 50,000 miles.
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This is an old one - Merc said their autos were sealed for life and yet any number of V8 mercs (things like C43 and E55 from the late 90s) had gearbox troubles from 100k to 130k miles typically.
The cynics changed their ATF every 50k miles and never had any problems.

Needless to say i will be changing the ATF in my 'box at the next service (only just bought the car and it's on 62k miles).
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A BMW Service Manager also told me that the gearbox oil can and probably should be changed but only if the car is expected to go on for 1,000,000s of miles.

I also read that the method that BMW use to change the oil and the method that gearbox specialists use differs in that BMW don't completely flush through the new oil but simply drain and top up. (Something like that!) Also remember seeing a figure of 11 litres, I think this was the figure needed for a complete flush through?
I to have been told by BMW that a oil change was all that was required and not a full filter change.

MY 330i will be going in for a change in March ish as at the back of the box there is a plug which is leaking (a small amount of) oil and this is apparently quite a common but can only be fixed with the filter removed.
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